--===============1762175638== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64bb7c29aaaf80490715b0c --0016e64bb7c29aaaf80490715b0c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This message got stuck in the moderator queue. Probably because I sent it from a different mail account... -------- Forwarded message -------- From: Kurt Pfeifle Date: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [kde-promo] booklet To: KDE Promo On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Felix Michel wrote: > C:\downloads> *pdfinfo Kde_booklet_redistilled_by_Ghostscript.pdf* > > Producer: GPL Ghostscript 8.71 > > CreationDate: 09/15/10 09:14:03 > > ModDate: 09/15/10 09:14:03 > > Tagged: no > > Pages: 7 > > Encrypted: no > > Page size: 419.528 x 595.276 pts > > File size: 191791 bytes > > Optimized: no > > PDF version: 1.4 > > > > In detail: > > > > - InDesign's signature in the metadata is gone. ;-) > > - File size has shrinked from ~580 kBytes to ~190 kBytes > > > > I don't see any visible difference in Acro Reader 9.3.3 on WinXP at 96dpi > > screen resolution and 200% Zoom other than a smaller degradation in the > KDE > > logo at the top of each page. But this could be improved or kept at same > > quality by adding some appropriate tweaking parameters to the Ghostscript > > commandline (without much more finetuning, first try by adding > > -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress). > > > > Cheers, > > Kurt > > thanks Kurt. i only used this font once and it is not really useful for my > purpose because i need a bold version of this font. i am new at this whole > pdf > printing stuff, so i am happy to get some hints. maybe we should provide to > versions, one without indesign signature and so on and the other one for > printing the booklet. what do you think? I don't think circulating 2 different PDF versions of the same KDE promo file (which even will not display any visible difference on users' screens) would work. People will not micro-manage 2 versions for themselves. Murphy's law should tell us that people then will always use the wrong file for printing ;-) My point is: whichever version we distribute should work on all (even older) PDF viewers and on (also older) Linux printers. And before distributing, let people run some tests. (It may even be that the current file is working fine in all viewers and through all printer drivers, and the message in my cmd.exe console was fake. I've just had bad experience with CS3/4/5-PDFs...) If you want to retain/restore the InDesign signature in the metadata even after running it through a sanitizing Ghostscript re-distillation, I can give you some additional commandline which would do just that. Try this: gs \ -o Kde_booklet_redistilled_by_Ghostscript.pdf \ -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \ -c "[/Creator (Adobe InDesign CS3 \(5.0\)) /Author (KDE Promo Team) /Title (foobar) /Subject (something) /Keywords (blabla, so-and-so) /DOCINFO pdfmark" \ -dPDFSETTINGS=/printer \ -f Kde_booklet.pdf This will produce the following metadata as displayed by 'pdfinfo': Title: foobar Subject: something Keywords: blabla, so-and-so Author: KDE Promo Team Creator: Adobe InDesign CS3 (5.0) Producer: GPL Ghostscript 8.71 CreationDate: 09/15/10 16:53:49 ModDate: 09/15/10 16:53:49 Tagged: no Pages: 7 Encrypted: no Page size: 419.528 x 595.276 pts File size: 192151 bytes Optimized: no PDF version: 1.4 You could play with the -dPDFSETTINGS= parameter to see some filesize and quality differences. Supported values to use are "/screen", "/ebook", "/default", "/printer" and "/prepress". You could even replace the "Creator:" thingie if you want... Cheers, Kurt --0016e64bb7c29aaaf80490715b0c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message got stuck in the moderator queue. Probably because I sent it f= rom a different mail account...

-------- = Forwarded message --------
From: Kurt Pfei= fle <kurt.pfeifle@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [kde-promo] booklet
T= o: KDE Promo <kde-promo@kde.org= >


On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Felix Michel <felix_michel@gmx.ch&= gt; wrote:

> C:\downloads> *pdfinfo Kde_booklet_redistilled_by_Ghostscript.pdf*<= br> > Producer: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 GPL Ghostscript 8.71
> CreationDate: =C2=A0 09/15/10 09:14:03
> ModDate: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A009/15/10 09:14:03
> Tagged: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 no
> Pages: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A07
> Encrypted: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0no
> Page size: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0419.528 x 595.276 pts
> File size: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0191791 bytes
> Optimized: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0no
> PDF version: =C2=A0 =C2=A01.4
>
> In detail:
>
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0- InDesign's signature in the metadata is gone. =C2= =A0;-)
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0- File size has shrinked from ~580 kBytes to ~190 kBytes<= br> >
> I don't see any visible difference in Acro Reader 9.3.3 on WinXP a= t 96dpi
> screen resolution and 200% Zoom other than a smaller degradation in th= e KDE
> logo at the top of each page. But this could be improved or kept at sa= me
> quality by adding some appropriate tweaking parameters to the Ghostscr= ipt
> commandline (without much more finetuning, first try by adding
> =C2=A0-dPDFSETTINGS=3D/prepress).
>
> Cheers,
> Kurt

thanks Kurt. i only used this font once and it is not really us= eful for my
purpose because i need a bold version of this font. i am new at this whole = pdf
printing stuff, so i am happy to get some hints. maybe we should provide to=
versions, one without indesign signature and so on and the other one for printing the booklet. what do you think?

<= /div>
I don't think circulating 2 different PDF versions of the sam= e KDE promo file (which even will not display any visible difference on use= rs' screens) would work. People will not micro-manage 2 versions for th= emselves. Murphy's law should tell us that people then will always use = the wrong file for printing =C2=A0;-)

My point is: whichever version we distribute should wor= k on all (even older) PDF viewers and on (also older) Linux printers. And b= efore distributing, let people run some tests. (It may even be that the cur= rent file is working fine in all viewers and through all printer drivers, a= nd the message in my cmd.exe console was fake. I've just had bad experi= ence with CS3/4/5-PDFs...)

If you want to retain/restore the InDesign signature in= the metadata even after running it through a sanitizing Ghostscript re-dis= tillation, I can give you some additional commandline which would do just t= hat. Try this:

=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0gs \
=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-o Kde_booklet_redistilled_by_Ghostscript.pdf \<= /span>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-sDEVICE= =3Dpdfwrite \
=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-c=C2=A0 "[/Creator (Adobe= InDesign CS3 \(5.0\)) /Author (KDE Promo Team) /Title (foobar) /Subject (s= omething) /Keywords (blabla, so-and-so) /DOCINFO pdfmark" \
-dPDFSETTINGS=3D/printer \<= /div>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0-f Kde_boo= klet.pdf

This will produce the following metadata as displayed by 'pdfi= nfo':

Title: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0foobar
Subject: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0something
Keywords: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 blabla, so-and-so
Author: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 KDE Promo Team
=
Creator: =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0Adobe InDesign CS3 (5.0)
=
Producer: =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 GPL Ghostscript 8.71
CreationDate: = =C2=A0 09/15/10 16:53:49
ModDate: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A009/15/10 16:53:49=
Tagged: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 no
Pages: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A07
Encrypted: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0no
Page size: =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0419.528 x 595.276 pts
File size: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0192151 bytes
Optimized: =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0no
PDF version: =C2=A0 =C2=A01.4

You= could play with the -dPDFSETTINGS=3D parameter to see some filesize and qu= ality differences. Supported values to use are "/screen", "/= ebook", "/default", "/printer" and "/prepress= ". You could even replace the "Creator:" thingie if you want= ...

Cheers,
Kurt

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