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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] KDE & itsme
From:       Vincenzo Di Massa <vincenzo.dimassa () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-11-30 13:38:44
Message-ID: 6b4d3d10911300538ka817f2cw65299d6aec97d25e () mail ! gmail ! com
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Hi Jos,
In the comments of that post I wrote:

"""
How can we join forces? Can we pursue a win-win objective?

It would be great to hear from KDE people.

Itsme has (great) human resources devoted to communication: maybe just
helping each oher communicating could help.
Being alone telling to the world that “the plain, old style, desktop
metaphor is showing its age”, is not as good as beeing 2 or more.
Moreover activities/venues can be seen (IMHO) as different
implmentations of similar concepts).

Of course also sharing lines of code would be great, where/if this can be done.
"""

I'm not expert as a "communicator", so I don't have any hint or
idea... but I think that the fact that not just KDE is thinking about
a new "desktop workflow/metaphor" could be a start for more
"persuasive" communication. Being more than 1 could help creating hype
and could help giving the impression of a "stronger concept". Prof
G.De Michelis has studied this subject for years, itsme has spend
thousand hundreds euros in the study its concept... and KDE-activities
are really a close relative to itsme-venues. I think it could work as
a "validation": two independent projects arrived at the same
conclusion.

I'm just guessing, maybe I'm completely wrong, but I know many
companies pay millions for "studies" that tell to their customers and
investors that what they are doing is sound and not completely crazy.
Sometime they pay lies (ever heard about "Get the facts"? :-P)...
If the kde-promo team wishes and comes up with an idea, KDE-activities
(or KDE-plasma-desktop) can have this sort of "validation" :-)

Moreover my team has many Gnome/Gtk lovers. I don't like that
technology so I hope a stronger link between KDE and itsme could
improve things.

We just moved from kde-nepomuk to tracker because of  2 reasons:
A) our developers not understanding the benefit of the Nepomuk
integration with the rest of KDE products
B) many of our developers knows/uses gtk in my team better than Qt

Of course using only KDE technologies in itsme would be great, but
"joining communication forces" (where it applies) is IMHO more
important and comes first.

Just my 0.2€

Vincenzo

P.S.: remember to CC me if you reply ;-)

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Vincenzo Di Massa
> <vincenzo.dimassa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi kde-promo list.
> > I'm a kde contributor (small, very small, very very small contributor)
> > and big fanboy ;-)
> > 
> > I'm employed in a small company (www.itsme.it), developing a new OS
> > metaphor. I think itsme is having great advantages by the existence of
> > KDE and I could that joining forces could be a win-win.
> 
> Oh, I've seen that before, checked out http://itsme.it/project/ a
> while ago. Interesting! We love innovative companies ;-)
> 
> > I write to the list for sebas directions ;-)
> > 
> > I'm not subscribing to the list, so please CC me if you reply.
> 
> Well, I doubt anyone would be against cooperation, the question is
> how. What exactly do you have in mind, how can we help you and how an
> itsme help the KDE community?
> 
> greetings,
> 
> Jos
> 
> > Ciao
> > Vincenzo
> > 
> > [11:33] <vincenzo> Hi Chani
> > [11:35] <vincenzo> Your last blog post is linked on
> > http://itsme.it/news/2009/11/30/activities-in-kde-4-8 ...
> > [11:36] <vincenzo> I think kde & itsme could benefit each other (well,
> > itsme already benefits from KDE)...
> > [12:12] <sebas> vincenzo: if you don't get an answer here, email to kde-promo
> > [12:12] <sebas> it's quite an active list
> > 
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