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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] KDE & itsme
From:       Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-11-30 13:50:31
Message-ID: 5847e5cf0911300550k4a330e4rcb91da31de802d2 () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Vincenzo Di Massa
<vincenzo.dimassa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jos,
> In the comments of that post I wrote:
> 
> """
> How can we join forces? Can we pursue a win-win objective?
> 
> It would be great to hear from KDE people.
> 
> Itsme has (great) human resources devoted to communication: maybe just
> helping each oher communicating could help.
> Being alone telling to the world that “the plain, old style, desktop
> metaphor is showing its age”, is not as good as beeing 2 or more.
> Moreover activities/venues can be seen (IMHO) as different
> implmentations of similar concepts).

Sounds interesting, I can't think of a concrete thing we can do but
maybe somebody on the promo list can.

> Of course also sharing lines of code would be great, where/if this can be done.
> """
> 
> I'm not expert as a "communicator", so I don't have any hint or
> idea... but I think that the fact that not just KDE is thinking about
> a new "desktop workflow/metaphor" could be a start for more
> "persuasive" communication. Being more than 1 could help creating hype
> and could help giving the impression of a "stronger concept". Prof
> G.De Michelis has studied this subject for years, itsme has spend
> thousand hundreds euros in the study its concept... and KDE-activities
> are really a close relative to itsme-venues. I think it could work as
> a "validation": two independent projects arrived at the same
> conclusion.

Sounds interesting. If we knew a bit more about what your company is
doing and what technology they use it would be even better ;-) Can you
tell us a bit more about that? Maybe it's worth an interview or you
guys can host a meeting or something sometime, that's a neath way of
getting closer to the KDE community.

> I'm just guessing, maybe I'm completely wrong, but I know many
> companies pay millions for "studies" that tell to their customers and
> investors that what they are doing is sound and not completely crazy.
> Sometime they pay lies (ever heard about "Get the facts"? :-P)...
> If the kde-promo team wishes and comes up with an idea, KDE-activities
> (or KDE-plasma-desktop) can have this sort of "validation" :-)
> 
> Moreover my team has many Gnome/Gtk lovers. I don't like that
> technology so I hope a stronger link between KDE and itsme could
> improve things.

Sure, absolutely good. What can we do? It's hard for me to think of
ways to help you - you know what you need...

> We just moved from kde-nepomuk to tracker because of  2 reasons:
> A) our developers not understanding the benefit of the Nepomuk
> integration with the rest of KDE products

Wow, that's stupid... "I've ordered a BMW 5 series but it took a week
longer to deliver than a Ford KA so I settled for that"

Do they even know what these technologies are supposed to do? Tracker
is really not flexible enough for what you want to do, as far as I can
tell. How about we get a Nepomuk person to your company to help you
guys out?

> B) many of our developers knows/uses gtk in my team better than Qt
> 
> Of course using only KDE technologies in itsme would be great, but
> "joining communication forces" (where it applies) is IMHO more
> important and comes first.

Sure, no problem with that... Just make sure you choose the best technology ;-)

> Just my 0.2€
> 
> Vincenzo
> 
> P.S.: remember to CC me if you reply ;-)
> 
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Vincenzo Di Massa
> > <vincenzo.dimassa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi kde-promo list.
> > > I'm a kde contributor (small, very small, very very small contributor)
> > > and big fanboy ;-)
> > > 
> > > I'm employed in a small company (www.itsme.it), developing a new OS
> > > metaphor. I think itsme is having great advantages by the existence of
> > > KDE and I could that joining forces could be a win-win.
> > 
> > Oh, I've seen that before, checked out http://itsme.it/project/ a
> > while ago. Interesting! We love innovative companies ;-)
> > 
> > > I write to the list for sebas directions ;-)
> > > 
> > > I'm not subscribing to the list, so please CC me if you reply.
> > 
> > Well, I doubt anyone would be against cooperation, the question is
> > how. What exactly do you have in mind, how can we help you and how an
> > itsme help the KDE community?
> > 
> > greetings,
> > 
> > Jos
> > 
> > > Ciao
> > > Vincenzo
> > > 
> > > [11:33] <vincenzo> Hi Chani
> > > [11:35] <vincenzo> Your last blog post is linked on
> > > http://itsme.it/news/2009/11/30/activities-in-kde-4-8 ...
> > > [11:36] <vincenzo> I think kde & itsme could benefit each other (well,
> > > itsme already benefits from KDE)...
> > > [12:12] <sebas> vincenzo: if you don't get an answer here, email to kde-promo
> > > [12:12] <sebas> it's quite an active list
> > > 
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