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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] 4.0 release delayed cited
From:       "Jos Poortvliet" <jos () mijnkamer ! nl>
Date:       2007-09-01 18:45:48
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On 9/1/07, Eric Krüse <bildvontux@yahoo.de> wrote:
> 
> This is exactly what Mr. Shuttleworth was talking of at AKademy; Gnome
> drops stuff to keep their release schedule and we do not..... If we were
> more reliable maybe a derivative of Ubuntu would not be KUbunutu but
> GUbuntu.


I don't think it's very reasonable to release KDE 4.0 without a usable
desktop. It's pretty hard to do something like the KDE 3 - 4 transition
incrementally. I guess it's possible if you don't care about backwards
compatibility... Sure, it gains Gnome mindshare and commercial support. But
I doubt it's technically the smartest thing to do, at least for KDE.

I'm all for a release of 4.1 in 6 months, though, and maybe continue with
that for some time. But not too strict.

*"Richard A. Johnson" <nixternal@ubuntu.com>* schrieb:
> 
> On Friday 31 August 2007, Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> [...]
> > Yes, we rock :-)
> 
> Of course we rock!
> 
> [...]
> > Seems like the date posted this morning is not final yet. It's currently
> > being discussed on the release-team list. So please hold off announcing
> a
> > release schedule for a bit.
> 
> Ya, I just posted that it is being pushed back 2 months, no dates given,
> except for the title "KDE 4.0 - The Stocking Stuffer" :)
> 
> @Wade: Ya, I sure won't pick up paper from the bathroom floor, or tap my
> feet
> to the music I listen to on the Ogg Player from now on when visiting an
> airport :D
> 
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> Richard A. Johnson
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On 9/1/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Eric Krüse</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:bildvontux@yahoo.de">bildvontux@yahoo.de</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span \
class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px \
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> This is \
exactly what Mr. Shuttleworth was talking of at AKademy; Gnome drops stuff to keep \
their release schedule and we do not..... If we were more reliable maybe a derivative \
of Ubuntu would not be KUbunutu but GUbuntu.  </blockquote><div><br>I don&#39;t think \
it&#39;s very reasonable to release KDE 4.0 without a usable desktop. It&#39;s pretty \
hard to do something like the KDE 3 - 4 transition incrementally. I guess it&#39;s \
possible if you don&#39;t care about backwards compatibility... Sure, it gains Gnome \
mindshare and commercial support. But I doubt it&#39;s technically the smartest thing \
to do, at least for KDE. <br><br>I&#39;m all for a release of 4.1 in 6 months, \
though, and maybe continue with that for some time. But not too \
strict.<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid \
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> \
<b><i>&quot;Richard A. Johnson&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nixternal@ubuntu.com" \
target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">nixternal@ubuntu.com</a>&gt;</i></b> \
schrieb:<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; \
padding-left: 5px;"> <div><span class="e" id="q_114c250d261c2606_1"> On Friday 31 \
August 2007, Sebastian Kügler wrote:<br>[...]<br>| Yes, we rock :-)<br><br>Of course \
we rock!<br><br>[...]<br>| Seems like the date posted this morning is not final yet. \
It&#39;s currently <br>| being discussed on the release-team list. So please hold off \
announcing a<br>| release schedule for a bit.<br><br>Ya, I just posted that it is \
being pushed back 2 months, no dates given, <br>except for the title &quot;KDE  4.0 - \
The Stocking Stuffer&quot; :)<br><br>@Wade: Ya, I sure won&#39;t pick up paper from \
the bathroom floor, or tap my feet <br>to the music I listen to on the  Ogg Player \
from now on when visiting an <br>airport :D<br><br>-- <br>Richard A. Johnson<br><a \
href="mailto:nixternal@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">nixternal@ubuntu.com </a><br>GPG Key: \
0x2E2C0124<br> <br></span></div><span \
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