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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: The Copy/Paste Problem
From:       Henry Stanaland <henryst () MIT ! EDU>
Date:       2001-03-11 20:22:51
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Sergej Malinovski wrote:

> Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> 
>> By your plan, you only have one single buffer -- as soon as you select
>> some text, it *automatically* over-writes what was in the buffer, so you
>> can't replace text by pasting.
> 
> 
> Selecting text should do nothing by my plan. Grrr. I am sorry if it wasn't 
> clear enough from my prior mails. This means there are no problems you 
> describe by my Grand Plan ;-)
> 
> Please, review my plan again with that in mind.
> 
>> I've just given an example where multiple buffers *aren't* unneeded
>> functionality, but are very important, even vital. If you don't want to
>> use multiple buffers, don't use them -- just use the one. But don't take
>> them away from people who do!
> 
> 
> Your desire to have multiple buffers is allready fulfilled by Klipper. I am 
> saying that another, extra, independent X buffer is what is not needed. 
> That's what's overlapping. What we have now is multiple buffers + 1 instead 
> of just one multibuffered clipboard.
> 
Well, look at it this way.  If you do NOT have 2 buffers, then that 
means that you
cannot "copy" text by SELECTING it.  Which means the only way to copy and
paste would be the explicit way.

The mouse will only copy what is selected and paste what was last 
selected.  So it
is totally indepedent.  What you really want is a paste on your mouse 
right?  Well....
I don't know what to tell you.... too bad?  This is an X thing, and 
aside from the
point that it's hard as hell to get those X people to change 
anything(remember it's
not just Linux), most people do like it.

The only way I can imagine having a "paste" on the mouse would be if you 
are lucky
like me and have an extra "thumb" button that you could set to use 
explicit paste.  But
I think two mouse buttons that paste would really be confusing...as you 
would probably
always hit the wrong one.  Or perhaps, somehow make "ctrl+MMB" = PASTE?

Anyhow, Konqueror already has a solution.  They have that "X" that 
clears the location
bar which allows you to subsequently middle-click.

But, I really think our goal should be to aim for consistency by 
following the
freedesktop's standards rather than throwing them out the window shortly 
after they
have become standards.

-Henry

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