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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: KDE Standards - Basic - Windows
From:       Peter Penz <peter.penz () jk ! uni-linz ! ac ! at>
Date:       1999-09-22 16:50:54
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> > Agree, but where's the sense (english?) of an empty window? We have a
> > SINGLE-document-interface with NO document :-) The developer would have
> > to inactivate all menus except File->new and File->open.
> 
> He has to do that anyway, because when the application is started manually, it will
> not have any document loaded.
Like mentioned in my mail before: opening an SDI-app. leads to a empty
DOCUMENT, not empty window. E. g. try kwrite, kedit, killustrator,
kiconedit, kpaint, ... (I don't know one application except kword, which
has an empty window). 

> 
> > Q: tell me one example, where you need to 'Close' a document (=> empty
> > window) in a SDI and not closing the window...
> 
> It depends. I have made a drawing and want to throw it away to make a new one.
Select 'New' (=> New window with empty document) and close the old
window.

> Or I have this document and want to start working on another document.
Select 'New'.

> Currently 'open' replaces an existing document so this is not really needed,
> however when 'open' opens a document in a 'new' window, you need to have
> a way to close an existing document to be able to replace it.
Open doesn't open a new window...

> 
> It is very much coupled to the behaviour of the 'open' function. Both variants are
> consistent but I think having an open which doesn't close an existing document
> by default is more intuitive.
Please try some common applications for their open-behaviour (kedit,
kwrite, Wordperfect, MSWord, killustrator, ...........) and tell all
developers to change this common behaviour (I'll not risc that ;-)

> No. New always opens a new empty window.
Nonono ;-) New opens a new window with an empty DOCUMENT.
Just wondering: I never saw this behaviour of an empty window in a SDI
ever and only on less MDIs (e. g. Paintshoppro, but thats a MDI...).

Peter

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