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Subject: Re: Selections on the Adjustment layers
From: Sven Langkamp <sven.langkamp () gmail ! com>
Date: 2009-09-04 11:44:05
Message-ID: 478b087a0909040444w765b7513q6e2245d5636f5a36 () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org> wrote:
> On Thursday 03 September 2009, Sven Langkamp wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Boudewijn Rempt <boud@valdyas.org>
> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 03 September 2009, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> > > > We can easily change this behavior - a thumbnail of ANY layer will
> show
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > > > resulting projection with all the masks applied. This won't be quite
> > > > logical, but there is no barrier in implementation.
> > >
> > > Actually, that's the way I wanted it all the time, just like with group
> > > layers: a thumbnail shows the rendered projection of a layer
> >
> > This doesn't make sense for me. The thumbnail would change even if the
> > content of the layer doesn't change,
> > It might also confuse users coming from the other editors.
>
> But the masks are part of the content of a layer, just like the layers in a
> group are part of the group layer -- so it makes sense to use the rendered
> projection in the thumbnail for a layer.
>
> > What's wrong with adjustment layer + group layer? Ok it wastes some
> space,
> > but it's not like we are really saving space in the layerbox anyway.
>
> I must be missing something here?
>
This (show in the image on the right side):
> >Example:
> > http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5144/adjustmentlayer2.png
>
> > With filter mask it starts with the paint layer, jumps to the lowest
> child
> > of the layer and goes upwards while compositing (With explicit masks
> > would even be one level deeper)What's also weird is that the preview
> > image of the finished layer would be shown in the first child of the
> source layer (last filter mask).
>
> I don't like the second way as it takes tooooo much space on your
> workplace.
>
> Idea! What if we'll introduce a tree with the root in the bottom and
> branches at the top? =)
>
> Like this:
>
> --o Layer3
> --o Layer2
>
> + Second mask
> |
> + First mask
> |
> --+ Layer1
> --o Layer0
>
> What do you think?
>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Boudewijn Rempt <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On Thursday 03 \
September 2009, Sven Langkamp wrote:<br> > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:45 PM, \
Boudewijn Rempt <<a href="mailto:boud@valdyas.org">boud@valdyas.org</a>> \
wrote:<br> > > On Thursday 03 September 2009, Dmitry Kazakov wrote:<br>
> > > We can easily change this behavior - a thumbnail of ANY layer will \
show<br> > ><br>
> > the<br>
> ><br>
> > > resulting projection with all the masks applied. This won't be \
quite<br> > > > logical, but there is no barrier in implementation.<br>
> ><br>
> > Actually, that's the way I wanted it all the time, just like with \
group<br> > > layers: a thumbnail shows the rendered projection of a layer<br>
><br>
> This doesn't make sense for me. The thumbnail would change even if the<br>
> content of the layer doesn't change,<br>
> It might also confuse users coming from the other editors.<br>
<br>
</div>But the masks are part of the content of a layer, just like the layers in a<br>
group are part of the group layer -- so it makes sense to use the rendered<br>
projection in the thumbnail for a layer.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> What's wrong with adjustment layer + group layer? Ok it wastes some \
space,<br> > but it's not like we are really saving space in the layerbox \
anyway.<br> <br>
</div>I must be missing something here?<br></blockquote><div><br> This (show in the \
image on the right side):<br></div><blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote"> \
>Example: <br>> <a \
href="http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5144/adjustmentlayer2.png" \
target="_blank">http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5144/adjustmentlayer2.png</a><br><br>> \
With filter mask it starts with the paint layer, jumps to the lowest child<br>> of \
the layer and goes upwards while compositing (With explicit masks<br>> would even \
be one level deeper)What's also weird is that the preview <br>> image of the \
finished layer would be shown in the first child of the source layer (last filter \
mask).<br><br>I don't like the second way as it takes tooooo much space on your \
workplace.<br><br>Idea! What if we'll introduce a tree with the root in the \
bottom and branches at the top? =)<br> <br>Like this:<br><br><span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">--o Layer3</span><br><span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">--o Layer2</span><br><span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"></span><br> <span style="font-family: \
courier new,monospace;"> + Second mask</span><br style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> |</span><br><span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> + First mask</span><br \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier \
new,monospace;"> |</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span \
style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">--+ Layer</span>1<br style="font-family: \
courier new,monospace;"> <span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">--o \
Layer0</span><br><br>What do you think?<br></blockquote>
</div><br>
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