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List:       kde-i18n-doc
Subject:    Re: Translating KDE with Translatewiki
From:       "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemowiki () gmail ! com>
Date:       2013-03-22 18:10:58
Message-ID: 514C9EB2.7000901 () gmail ! com
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Hello everyone!
Thanks Dashamir for your experience. I'm trying to understand more on 
B-Translator.
	When I read  «Also it is language centric [...] rather than project 
centric » I misread it as criticism against translatewiki.net... glad you 
like that. But most workflows on translatewiki.net are agnostic, you can 
work per project or per language.
	As for your proposal "Integration with the existing workflow of the 
project translations", translatewiki.net satisfies all those 
requirements, as far as I can see. We don't have suggestions and votes 
on multiple translations (yet), it's (still) a standard wiki model with 
a single last version for each "topic"; however we have "votes" on the 
last revision for each translation, see 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Quality_assurance>. 
A language team who chose to use translatewiki.net could even 
hypothetically focus on using it to collect "votes" for current 
translations (of course not a good idea if there are multiple 
feedback/voting systems for that language).
	On "However this merge is a bit difficult": it's not with 
translatewiki.net. The system takes care of all merge and commit 
activity in the translators' stead. Even if for some reason someone 
commits translations directly to the CVS – instead of submitting the 
files from offline translation via translatewiki.net as possible and 
recommended[1] –, conflicts are handled by the person responsible for 
the exports with Translate's scripts.[2] Again, as Niklas said, each 
language team would decide to join translatewiki.net individually, and 
while doing so could even decide to automatically get any conflicting 
translation thrown in the trashbin when coming from it (not nice, but 
possible).
	I hope this helps; sorry if I missed your points... bridging online and 
offline translation communities is complicate because it's so hard to 
understand each other. :) That's why Niklas announced his upcoming 
presentation 4 months earlier, to collect more information in the 
meanwhile and prepare a more complete proposal that will allow a 
constructive discussion at Akademy and will hopefully provide some 
language teams with something they'll like and find useful enough to 
adopt it.

Federico aka Nemo

[1] 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Off-line_translation>.
[2] 
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Translate/Group_management> 
(stub but no real need to care, translatewiki.net staff does it).
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