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List:       kde-i18n-doc
Subject:    Re: choqoK use of "dent"
From:       Sveinn_í_Felli <sveinki () nett ! is>
Date:       2009-03-26 8:30:06
Message-ID: 20090326083056.27407.qmail () ktown ! kde ! org
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Hi,

Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 March 2009 22:45:40 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>> New words are invented all the time, languages have to adapt or die, i
>> mean, you can use words 4 words that describe it (like a "Screen that
>> projects images") or create a new word ("Television") it is true that new
>> words die fast too.
>>
>> Personally i'm not going to "weight in" in favor of the removal of these
>> words with my i18n coordinator hat, you are of course still free to mail
>> the developer and try to convince him by yourself.
>>
>> Albert
>>
>>> Anne-Marie
> OK, it's just that I had no clue about this stuff and as I often see out of 
> context translations in such cases I prefered asking. 
> 
> I'll add context help in all those small sentences.
> 
> Anne-Marie
> 
New words appear (and die), in my opinion this has to do
with how to treat terms that are derived from proper names,
as in "dent" derived from the proper name "Identi". Some
languages have a long history of integrating proper names,
even trademarks, into their vocabulary e.g. in french you
use "frigo" (derived from Frigidaire, a trademark) to design
a refrigerator, another example is "scotch" (a tape).

More recent in many languages is "goggling" and to "google".
But would one say "I'm googling for it with AltaVista"?

My language is quite conservative in this matter, we still
use "ísskápur" (literally an "ice-shelf") which dates from
before fridges had any compressors or electricity.

If "dent" is absolutely necessary, then I think an
explanation should be included in context help for both
translators and users (tooltip).

A+
Sveinn í Felli
Icelandic KDE team


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