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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: K start menu icon ideas
From:       Hetz Ben Hamo <hetz () kde ! org>
Date:       2001-07-27 23:06:28
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Hi, 

Well, Sun studies are nice, but it is problematic from some points. Allow me 
to share it with you:

1. Using "Start" is a simple balant copy from Windows. This point can be 
arguable...

2. You're putting text into graphics which is a very problematic in terms of 
i18n - do u know anyone who is serious to create this "start" button for 56 
languages? text inside graphics issue has been discussed previously on the 
i18n mailing list and it has been agreed not to put text inside graphics 
(that, btw, why you don't see a version number in the KDE Splash screen when 
you start KDE).

3. I had the pleasure to let some kids play here at home with some of my 
machines and they were playing with KDE. Those kids got right away what is 
the "K" button and used KDE without any problem. Same thing for some other 
people who barely used windows and I helped them - they didn't need me to 
know where is the "start" button...

4. Try to put the panel vertically - and as you can see - "start" graphics 
will be shrinked too much..

What i CAN suggest is to open a tool tip for the first time user (after 
kpersonalizer runs the first time) - and open a tooltip very close (but not 
attached) to the K button with a small flashing arrow toward the K button - 
explaining what is this.

How's that?

Hetz

On Saturday 28 July 2001 02:01, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote:
> Hi,
>
>    A few people have told be to post thie to KDE artists, or KDE look or
> even KDE devel so I'm posting it to all of them. There has recently been
> some discussion on improving the usability of KDE as a result of the gnome
> usability study that sun did. One of the things that was raised was that
> the K menu button was just as ambiguous as the gnome foot, something which
> was cited as a problem for usability. A few suggestions have been made as
> to improve this aspect of KDE> One very good suggestion put forward was to
> make the icon wider, thus improving it's visibility on kicker. In that vein
> I've bashed a few pixels together and done some concept shots of what one
> might look like. Now, I'm no artist so these aren't real icons or anything,
> but they give you the idea. I'd also welcome other ideas as well. OK, you
> KDE veterans, don't freak out when you see the "start" ones. You can see
> them on a corner of my website I threw up for KDE, here:
>
> http://lycadican.sourceforge.net/kde/
 
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