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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Q: html editor
From:       Michael Freiberg <michael () mi-fr ! de>
Date:       2000-04-28 10:07:59
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Thomas wrote:
> 
> I see you feel very strong about this, so I will just tell you mine situation:
> I work in an internet company, we make websites by the dozens. Not static but
> interactive website with database input/output. This is done via html templates.
> 
> These templates contain tags which do things like
> #if($costomer.HasDiscount) {
>   bla
> }
> 
> etc.
> 
> These codes I have to type by hand, so I agree with your statements.
> 
> On the other hand I can not and I don't want to create the tables by hand
> that I use reguarly (since layers just don't work in target browsers)
> And creating links to other files in my site is as easy as point and
> click.
> And what about converting a whole page to another fontset, it would take you
> 3 clicks in dreamweaver. It would take you halve an hour by hand, per page!
> 
> I good go on and on, wysiwyg is the way to go for professional html editors as
> well; why? simply becouse it allows then to try more in less time. Not settling
> for a working solution becuase you just don't have time to try others..
> 
> Well sorry, if I imposed. I see another program which has potential. I think
> I'll look at it with a more open eye then you did.
> 
> Thanx
> 
> >
> > Hi!
> > Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just want to say that I'm going to porting webmaker for KDE2 soon.
> > > > Last week I've downloaded the KDE2 CVS, compiled and was _very_ pleased.
> > > > It is great!
> > >
> > > Cool, I'll get the webmaker sometime next week and take a look at it.
> > > I really want an open source dreamweaver-like application on linux. So if
> > > you like the concept of dreamweaver I'd like webmaker to become more like that.
> > > The main difference is that the 'preview' screen is the editor screen; Wysiwyg.
> >
> > Sorry, but I must disappoint you - WebMaker is not a WYSIWYG editor and
> > I don't want it to become such one. The reason is very simple - HTML and
> > WYSIWYG are two very, very different concepts, in general they are
> > incompatible. So, all this "WYSIWYG editors" are only fictions, they
> > fool people - they can start to believe that their pages will look in
> > browser the same way as in editor. Generally such pages look very bad
> > and unprofessional. And if you understand it and try to improve look in
> > such editor it will take at least twice time that will be required in
> > non-WYSIWYG HTML editor. And they are not suitable for professional web
> > development - 95% of modern internet sites are not static HTML pages,
> > but dynamic pages, generated from databases or other data sources using
> > templates in HTML + PHP + SSI + embeded Perl etc. "WYSIWYG" editor can't
> > handle this at all.
> >
> > I'm professional web developer. I don't need such crap. I think that it
> > is useless and even more, harmfull. I will not work on this. Let people
> > that believe that development of full internet site is possible without
> > HTML knowledge and in 5 minutes work on such "WYSIWYG" editor. It will
> > be interesting thing - in general they also believe that good program
> > can be created without knowledge of programming ;-)))
> >
> > Of course, I'll try to add some things that can be called pseudo-WYSIWYG
> > - table generator ala FrontPage, frame generator, CSS editor and so on -
> > this are options, extensions that can simplify life and don't add
> > problems of "WYSIWYG" editors.
> >
> >       WBW, Alexei
> >
> 
> --
> Thomas Zander                                              zander@earthling.net
> History repeats itself, it has to nobody ever listens.         gpg-key:  0588D5

I just want to say that dreamweaver is the greatest web editor
I ever used. WYSIWYG is OK, but often I prefer coding HTML so
I just press F10 and I can enter the source. One thing I hate
during coding is the character enconding  like &uuml; and &eacute;
Some words look like Sp&auml;&szlig;chen. But it could be
implemented in an *real* html editor like Webmaker 
that special characters are replaced while coding, couldnt' it?

Michael
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