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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE4: missing features from KDE3
From:       Anne Wilson <cannewilson () googlemail ! com>
Date:       2009-08-05 5:53:50
Message-ID: 200908050653.50466.cannewilson () googlemail ! com
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On Tuesday 04 August 2009 23:09:40 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> that doesn't work very well over time because then we get tons of wish
> items which we just start ignoring wholesale. i don't like that either, but
> that is what is happening. it's easier to just push things into "wishlist"
> and ignore them all than to actually deal with them, and that's just wrong.
> it's also what is happening in a number of kde projects already. :(
>
> speaking of inappropriate tags, the term "wishlist" pisses people off for
> similar reasons "wontfix" does: it's an accurate term, but people take it
> to mean something like "you're wishing" in a negative manner. i've asked a
> few times to have this changed to "feature request".

and
> that doesn't work very well over time because then we get tons of wish items 
> which we just start ignoring wholesale. i don't like that either, but that  
> is what is happening. it's easier to just push things into "wishlist" and   
> ignore them all than to actually deal with them, and that's just wrong. it's   
> also what is happening in a number of kde projects already. :(

> speaking of inappropriate tags, the term "wishlist" pisses people off for 
> similar reasons "wontfix" does: it's an accurate term, but people take it to 
> mean something like "you're wishing" in a negative manner. i've asked a few 
> times to have this changed to "feature request".

I'm taking these two sections specifically because I think these are things 
that we could address to the benefit of all.  This thread started with Pau 
commenting that some of those 'missing kde 3 features' are genuine needs.  
Those genuine needs get buried among a vast amount of dross, so don't catch 
the attention of the developers.

In an ideal world new reports would be triaged within a week or two, and 
graded to make them more useful to developers and more reassuring to users.  
There isn't really any pressure that work must be done on them immediately, 
just that a decision needs to be made as to how viable they are.  Short 
explanatory comments would give a clue as to whether they are already being 
addressed, would be addressed soon, maybe sometime, but no timescale known, or 
even the dreaded WONTFIX, as long as a reason is given.

Maybe we should also consider putting an entry on UserBase about using 
Bugzilla, and how to track the progress of 'your bugs'.

I guess the changing language, largely due to the spread of US television, 
causes this 'you wish' negativity.  I never had a problem with the term WISH, 
but it seems that some do.  Maybe you are right and changing it to Feature 
Request would be better.

Anne
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