From kde-devel  Wed Aug 05 05:53:50 2009
From: Anne Wilson <cannewilson () googlemail ! com>
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 05:53:50 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: KDE4: missing features from KDE3
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On Tuesday 04 August 2009 23:09:40 Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> that doesn't work very well over time because then we get tons of wish
> items which we just start ignoring wholesale. i don't like that either, b=
ut
> that is what is happening. it's easier to just push things into "wishlist"
> and ignore them all than to actually deal with them, and that's just wron=
g.
> it's also what is happening in a number of kde projects already. :(
>
> speaking of inappropriate tags, the term "wishlist" pisses people off for
> similar reasons "wontfix" does: it's an accurate term, but people take it
> to mean something like "you're wishing" in a negative manner. i've asked a
> few times to have this changed to "feature request".

and
> that doesn't work very well over time because then we get tons of wish it=
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> which we just start ignoring wholesale. i don't like that either, but tha=
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> is what is happening. it's easier to just push things into "wishlist" and=
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> ignore them all than to actually deal with them, and that's just wrong. i=
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> also what is happening in a number of kde projects already. :(

> speaking of inappropriate tags, the term "wishlist" pisses people off for=
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> similar reasons "wontfix" does: it's an accurate term, but people take it=
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> mean something like "you're wishing" in a negative manner. i've asked a f=
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> times to have this changed to "feature request".

I'm taking these two sections specifically because I think these are things=
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that we could address to the benefit of all.  This thread started with Pau=
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commenting that some of those 'missing kde 3 features' are genuine needs. =
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Those genuine needs get buried among a vast amount of dross, so don't catch=
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the attention of the developers.

In an ideal world new reports would be triaged within a week or two, and=20
graded to make them more useful to developers and more reassuring to users.=
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There isn't really any pressure that work must be done on them immediately,=
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just that a decision needs to be made as to how viable they are.  Short=20
explanatory comments would give a clue as to whether they are already being=
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addressed, would be addressed soon, maybe sometime, but no timescale known,=
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even the dreaded WONTFIX, as long as a reason is given.

Maybe we should also consider putting an entry on UserBase about using=20
Bugzilla, and how to track the progress of 'your bugs'.

I guess the changing language, largely due to the spread of US television,=
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causes this 'you wish' negativity.  I never had a problem with the term WIS=
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but it seems that some do.  Maybe you are right and changing it to Feature=
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Request would be better.

Anne
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