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Subject: Re: Open question to all developers.
From: Michael Pyne <mpyne () purinchu ! net>
Date: 2008-06-28 22:50:09
Message-ID: 200806281850.14742.mpyne () purinchu ! net
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On Saturday 28 June 2008, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> Kelly Miller wrote:
> > Oh, I can confirm this, seeing as I'm back in yet another argument of
> > this kind at Groklaw, likely posted by the same three guys who have
> > been bringing up these arguments over and over again.
>
> I have to wonder why this discussion, some of which has valid points, is
> at Groklaw rather than on a KDE list or forum. So, any efforts to bring
> such discussions home is welcome.
Agreed.
> > forgetting that similar sorts of things happen whenever a new major
> > version of anything is released.
>
> Perhaps the hype about a radically new desktop didn't help. Added to
> this is the fact that Plasma is late. Problem is that the developer
> doesn't want to clearly state this.
Well any "hype" there was involved how new the desktop was so I fail to see
why that explains the surprise people had at the radically new desktop.
> > though what the user in question really means is that KDE is not
> > imping more Windows features.
>
> Is so, he has a small point. We do not want to clone MS-Windows, but
> the KDE desktop needs to be familiar and friendly to users migrating
> from MS-Windows.
Uh, no. No it doesn't. There's a long line of influences that KDE could pull
from and there's no reason to limit that to MS Windows. If KDE ends up
familiar enough to users of MS Windows then that's great but there is no
reason to force KDE to avoid improving because we might be less familiar to
Windows users.
Regards,
- Michael Pyne
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font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">On Saturday 28 June 2008, James Richard Tyrer \
wrote:<br> > Kelly Miller wrote:<br>
> > Oh, I can confirm this, seeing as I'm back in yet another argument of<br>
> > this kind at Groklaw, likely posted by the same three guys who have<br>
> > been bringing up these arguments over and over again.<br>
><br>
> I have to wonder why this discussion, some of which has valid points, is<br>
> at Groklaw rather than on a KDE list or forum. So, any efforts to bring<br>
> such discussions home is welcome.<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p>Agreed.<br> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"></p>> > forgetting that \
similar sorts of things happen whenever a new major<br> > > version of anything \
is released.<br> ><br>
> Perhaps the hype about a radically new desktop didn't help. Added to<br>
> this is the fact that Plasma is late. Problem is that the developer<br>
> doesn't want to clearly state this.<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p>Well any "hype" there was involved how new the desktop was so \
I fail to see why that explains the surprise people had at the radically new \
desktop.<br> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p>> > though what the user in question really means is \
that KDE is not<br> > > imping more Windows features.<br>
><br>
> Is so, he has a small point. We do not want to clone MS-Windows, but<br>
> the KDE desktop needs to be familiar and friendly to users migrating<br>
> from MS-Windows.<br>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p>Uh, no. No it doesn't. There's a long line of influences \
that KDE could pull from and there's no reason to limit that to MS Windows. If KDE \
ends up familiar enough to users of MS Windows then that's great but there is no \
reason to force KDE to avoid improving because we might be less familiar to Windows \
users.<br> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"></p>Regards,<br>
- Michael Pyne</p></body></html>
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