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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Fork of KDE4/Qt3?
From:       "Mark A. Taff" <marktaff () comcast ! net>
Date:       2008-06-10 9:42:12
Message-ID: 200806100242.13047.marktaff () comcast ! net
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On Tuesday 10 June 2008 01:50:35 Gael Beaudoin wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 June 2008 06:09:45 Mark A. Taff wrote:
>
> [ .. ]
>
> > You have earned exactly that.  Calling your fellow developers, users, and
> > contributors names, saying they are stupid, or incapable of
> > understanding, or incompetent coders, or treating plasma as a gift from
> > God beyond reproach, and generally insulting anyone who questions your
> > position has earned you every bit of frustration you feel.
>
> Sorry, but it's just *plain wrong*. It has to be said. And I won't get into
> details.

You are welcome to think that my standing up to Aaron's bullying is wrong, and 
calling him on his behaviour, but I will not be cowed by his vitrolic 
argumentum ad hominem.  Bullies need to be stood up to.

<snip>

> > (Please do speak up everyone if you approve of Aaron telling KDE
> > contributors they are stupid -- let's get a roll call vote on this one.)
> >
> > --Mark
> >
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>
> Let's get thing straight :
>
>  * The plasma team is well aware of your concerns.

	What does that mean exactly?  Right.  It means absolutely nothing.  It's what 
politicians say when you express your opinion on a matter, and they want to 
blow you off.

>  * Please wait a little bit more while everyting is being done.

	Please, define 'little bit'. KDE 4.2? 4.3? 

>  * Please understand you are doing harm to the project by hurting people.

	Last I checked, I'm not the one bullying other contributors.  You are welcome 
to ignore Aaron's bullying if you like.  But please explain to me why I 
should stand by and permit Aaron to insult and degrade contributors, whether 
myself or others?  How many potential developers, translators, doc writers, 
artists, have decided not to help because they don't want to get treated like 
a toilet by Aaron?

People laugh about Steve Ballmer losing his temper and throwing chairs, but 
nobody seems to mind when Aaron hurls personal attacks?

Do you or do you not approve of the way Aaron insults people who disagree with 
him?

I don't know about elsewhere, but in the U.S. it is a civil tort (harassment) 
to treat co-workers the way Aaron treats people.  Granted, this isn't a 
traditional workplace to say the very least, but it is simply unprofessional 
behaviour.  I do not expect professionals to hurl insults like Aaron does.

> Just, pretty please, stop. Thank you.

> Have a nice day.
> Gaël

I will have a nice day. I hope you will, as well.

Regards,

Mark
 
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