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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE rough edges - file-types in KDE 3
From:       "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2007-09-20 11:06:16
Message-ID: 200709200506.17347.aseigo () kde ! org
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On Tuesday 18 September 2007, Ian Wadham wrote:
> I am sorry this post has been so lengthy, but I hope you have had
> a few laughs and I really wanted to get across some flavour of
> what KDE can be like for a first-time user.  And that *is* a matter for
> developers to consider IMHO. 

so if i cut through everything here, i see exactly three concrete issues you 
raise:

- finding file associations; action items might include:
	- how easy *can* this be made? 
	- what are all the ways available now?
	- is this documented in a place people can find said documentation?
	- write patches to make it more obvious in line with the three Qs above
	- is it easier to find right now in kde4's systemsettings vs kcontrol?
- setting file associations
	- write a patch to concretely improve the file associations dialog
- listing of attachments in kmail
	- right now there is a list possible, but it isn't easy to find in the config
	- write a patch to move the inline attachment list (View -> 
Attachments -> "As Icons") to just underneath the header; perhaps change 'As 
Icons' to simple "list". this won't remove all need for the structure viewer 
as that is there for more hard core security requirements AFAIK, but would be 
a nice improvement and would be pretty easy to do.

the patch for kmail is probably the easiest of the three actually. it would be 
nice to do a visual update to the headers while at it as they are looking a 
bit old (oxy artists might be able to help out there..). but yeah, it's a 
pretty simple patch since the code to grab the attachments and make a list is 
already there, the output just needs to be rearranged a bit. the file to 
patch would be kdepim/kmail/kmreaderwin.cpp

so the options are:

- wait for someone else to do it (and don't complain if it doesn't happen soon 
enough for you)
- write some patches

and before someone bitches at me for the "write a patch" answer, this is 
the -devel list. which is to say, this is precisely where "write a patch" is 
the right answer. this is *not* a user support list. =)

> I'm hoping KDE 4.0 will be a lot easier to use ...

as Robert pointed out, some things are better some things are the same. 
perhaps a better phrasing would be "hoping KDE4" as that gives us a few more 
releases ;)

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Aaron J. Seigo
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