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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE Kleanup
From:       Andy Fawcett <andy () athame ! co ! uk>
Date:       2005-08-29 2:56:38
Message-ID: 200508290556.39830.andy () athame ! co ! uk
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On Monday 29 August 2005 02:21, lando wrote:
> As you may all be aware the desktop background tiles that come
> default with KDE are extremely out dated.  We have compiled a list of
> the tiles that we are planning to remove below.
> ---------------------------------
> All Good People          
> Black Marble              
> Chicken Songs
> Circuit
> Foggy
> Marble
> No-ones-laughing
> Paper01
> Planning And Probing
> Time for Lunch
> Totally New Product
> Won Ton Soup
> ----------------------------------
>
> We would like to ask if any of you know of any current applications
> that rely on any of these tiles?
>
> We will compile a list with updated wallpaper tile sets that better
> fit the current look and feel of KDE as a whole. We need your input
> before we can go on to the next step.
>
> Lando    
>
> > > > No-ones-laughing does not look outdated, is light and is
> > > > perfect for the card game.
> > > >
> > > > Is paper still default (it is on mine) it is as repetitive as
> > > > the others listed here, remove that one instead of
> > > > No-ones-laughing.
> > >
> > > The original list had been shortened by Stephan Kulow for the
> > > sake of clearer communication. I restored the list with its
> > > original content. Thank you for drawing my attention to this.
> >
> > One thing to consider is that some people may be using some of
> > these tiles for their desktop background. It would be a shame to
> > surprise them by removing them, so maybe they can be moved to a
> > different module (maybe even a new one) so they can still be
> > distributed. Of course, since they probably won't require much in
> > the way of maintenance, maybe they could just be dropped into a
> > tarball on the ftp server (complete with any .desktop files
> > relevant).
> >
> > For example, I use at least three of these on remote desktops I
> > use, to significantly reduce the bandwidth and redraw speed.
> > (Circuit, Chicken Songs, Marble).
>
> On top I have included the original post in full.  I hope this
> answers the concerns you may have.

Actually, it completely fails to answer the concerns I have. Just 
quoting back the original mail shows you fail to see what my concerns 
are.


You say that some of these look outdated, so you want to remove them.

I say that I know that some people use them, and don't find them 
outdated.

There is a famous painting hanging on a wall in the Louvre in Paris. 
Some would say the Mona Lisa looks outdated, others would say that it 
is outdated but is popular, and yet others would say that it looks as 
fresh today as it did 500 years ago when Leonardo painted it. Would you 
remove it?

The Art Deco style from the 1920s and 1930s now looks dated, but some 
people like it and some don't. Would you remove all examples of this 
style?

What I am saying is, while you 'artists' find some of these tiles 
outdated, other people find them attractive and useful. There is an old 
expression "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" that fits in rather 
well here.

I realise that you will never get a consensus on these tiles, all I am 
asking is for you to ensure that they stay available, even if it is 
only as a snapshot tarball of what they are now.

A.

-- 
Andy Fawcett                                     | andy@athame.co.uk
                                                 | tap@kde.org
"In an open world without walls and fences,      | tap@lspace.org
  we wouldn't need Windows and Gates."  -- anon  | tap@fruitsalad.org
 
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