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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: K-Menu (Expanding Kicker) - Icon Size
From:       John Tapsell <john () geola ! co ! uk>
Date:       2004-11-30 10:39:47
Message-ID: 200411301039.47481.john () geola ! co ! uk
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I get the feeling I'm responding to a troll, but what the hell..

> Yes, and was rather put off that I should obviously learn C++ and read
> up on the KDE Libraries to be able to do what I believe should be a
> simple task. (Apparently for some people, things haven't changed
> [http://www.linuxandmain.com/news/raymond.html])

Put off or not, if it's not implemented yet, then if you want that feature you 
either have to wait patiently, learn C++ and code it yourself, or pay someone 
else to do it.
Someone else has given you one possible answer, and gave it on the irc 
channel, yet you are still not happy and CC the email to eric  and cathy 
raymond, and then bad talk the developers!


The correct way for you to deal with this would have been to try to do this, 
fail, ask on #kde-users or #kde.  If you get no reply, possibly try 
#kde-devel but don't be surprised if you get a developer answer (do something 
technical or code-it-yourself).  Then search bugs.kde.org for an existing 
bug, and file a bug or a wish (probably a wish in this case).

Complaining to the kde-devel mailing list that someone told you to develop it 
yourself, and CC'ing eric raymond and his wife is not the correct way.

JohnFlux

On Tuesday 30 November 2004 06:52, Mark Miller wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 23:40:53 -0700, Aaron J. Seigo <aseigo@kde.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 29 November 2004 09:39, Mark Miller wrote:
> > > I have the Kicker on the left side of the screen.
> > >
> > > 1) I want to expand it beyond 128 pixels
> > > 2) I don't want K-Menu and other Icons to be "Large" size
> >
> > are you the fellow who asked this question in #kde earlier tonight?
>
> Yes, and was rather put off that I should obviously learn C++ and read
> up on the KDE Libraries to be able to do what I believe should be a
> simple task. (Apparently for some people, things haven't changed
> [http://www.linuxandmain.com/news/raymond.html])
>
> > if so, i
> > believe i told you that you can set ConserveSpace=true to get smaller
> > icon buttons in CVS HEAD / 3.4. if not, well, there's your answer =)
>
> So it's only available in CVS HEAD 3.4. Currently I am running 3.3.1.
> Is there no planned 3.3.2?
>
> > > These two issues seem related. The icons included for K-Menu do not
> > > expand past 128 pixels, so why would anyone want to expand the Kicker
> > > beyond 128 pixels?
> >
> > that's why we have the ability to add multiple panels!
>
> So I am suppose to add multiple panels to the left side of the screen?
> Or are you implying that I need to add one to the left, top, bottom,
> and right, just to gain the visibility of the titles of my windows,
> which would be accomplished cleaner and more easily by just expanding
> the Kicker to larger than 128 pixels wide/tall?
>
> > if you want panels that allow 2-dimensional layouts of buttons, there is
> > a wishlist item you can vote for on bugs.kde.org IIRC. i'm not yet
> > convinced it's an advantageous change to make, however.
>
> How does multiple panels help one read the title that is in the
> taskbar when it is on the left of the screen? That would defeat the
> entire purpose.
>
> When you're working with multiple copies of Firefox and other
> applications, it's nice to be able to pick which Firefox/xemacs
> instance you have running, since there is a limit to an amount of tabs
> you can nicely support in the instance.
>
> And I am not sure what you mean by 2-Dimensional layout of buttons. I
> just want to have the Kicker expand to 256 pixels wide.
>
> > --
> > Aaron J. Seigo
> > GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA  EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43
 
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