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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: KDE Window Focus Behaviour
From:       AR User <ars () joot ! com>
Date:       2004-07-02 21:19:43
Message-ID: 40E5D16F.20509 () joot ! com
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Thiago Macieira wrote:
> Still, not even your algorithm would be perfect: pinentry window and 
> KMail. It's actually a "KMail window", but it comes from a different 
> program. So it never gets focus either.

Wouldn't KMail have to fork() then execv() the pinentry window, thus 
becoming the parent application?  In which case KMail can be considered 
the owner of the application and the child app's GUI would be allowed to 
take focus.

> So, if I am in konsole and I start an app, it won't get focused? But 
> that's exactly what I wanted when I started the app...

If you are in Konsole and launch a GUI app., my feeling is that Alt-Tab 
would be a sufficient work-around to the issue (so long as the 
application you *just* launched is put into the appropriate z-order).  A 
good example of this is Mandrake's package manager: rpmdrake, which I 
start exclusively from the command line.

But!  If I understand things correctly ... Konsole has focus, and is 
thus the CFA.  It runs /bin/bash to provide a shell, and is thus the 
parent of the shell, too.  The shell spawns an application, becoming the 
parent of that application.  Since Konsole is the grandparent, the 
launched application is allowed to take focus.

So, basically, the algorithm becomes: it is okay to give focus away to a 
child/spawned application, provided its parent (or grandparent, up the 
family line) process is the CFA.  I don't know if this is possible.  :-)

I reiterate, however ... this is something *I* desire, and I sincerely 
doubt many people would want this exact behaviour.  Also, if this is the 
behaviour that KDE is supposed to have, then there is a bug, because 
none of the settings I have used apply it perfectly.

Dave
 
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