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Subject: Re: Ui enhancements
From: Laur Ivan <laur.ivan () corvil ! com>
Date: 2003-01-24 9:53:42
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Hi Luke,
Ive tried drop shadow (an offset for the halo) but I normally keep small
fonts with the desktop icons and sometimes (especially with aa fonts)
looks a bit unreadable. also, Troels has a good point with having
appropriate colors in the text and background. I think is a no-no for
8-12 px text.
However, i'm sure the offset of the shadow can be arranged for a drop
shadow via a tab in desktop's config panel containig an offset/angle or
something :).
I'll check out what's the best way to add the customisation to the
desktop config panel. I'm thinking on adding a button for "advanced" and
popping up a dialog. An alternative would be to extend the "Appearance"
tab in the desktop config.
Cheers,
Laur
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 20:39, Luke Chatburn wrote:
> Hi Laur...
>
> I'm sorry... I'm afraid I probably wasn't being quite clear in what I
> wrote...
>
> A distinct shadow effect of some kind is definitely a good idea, but XP and
> OSX employ a drop shadow rather than a glow such as the one that you have
> created. Either way is preferable to no text effect at all, and while the
> drop shadow is more subtle and less intrusive, the glow does provide a
> greater level of distinction... So it really depends which you are aiming
> for. Personally, I prefer the drop shadow, but that is just me :)
>
> -Luke
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Laur Ivan" <laur.ivan@corvil.com>
> To: <kde-devel@kde.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Ui enhancements
>
>
> > On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 19:24, Luke Chatburn wrote:
> > > Hi Laur...
> > >
> > > >From the perspective of someone who does a little graphic design I
> would
> > > advised a little tweak to what you have so far... While I understand you
> are
> > > aiming for clarity, you should consider adding a variable for angle and
> > > offset from text. In this way, you can also add drop shadows to text,
> which
> > > is usually highly beneficial visually.
> > In the case of a drop shadow, the algorithm's params should be slightly
> > changed (or even the algorithm itself).
> > >
> > > Long term, however, an outline effect such as the one you have devised
> will
> > > get on your nerves... :-/
> > Well, with your permission, I'll disagree on this point. When using XP,
> > I found the blur behind the text quite helpful. Especially with aliased
> > text...
> > >
> > > How are you constructing the final rendered text, by the way? Is it
> taking
> > > advantage of existing functions, or is it a dilation + blur?
> > AFAIK, the existing functions in kde are icon/pixmap related and it
> > would be relatively difficult to implement a proper blur with them.
> > Consequently, I thought that hardcoding an algorithm wouldn't be such a
> > bad idea and its CPU impact on small surfaces would be negligeable.
> > also, the shaddow is computed iff the text has been changed. Otherwise,
> > it's just rendered from memory.
> >
> > >
> > > I'm sure there are a few more things that could be done with this,
> perhaps to
> > > benefit accessibility... :) Good work :)
> > Yup. I'll check on Friedrich's idea of creating a KTextEffect class
> > somewhere in libs to handle this kind of methods.
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> > Laur
> >
> > >
> > > -Luke Chatburn
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thursday 23 Jan 2003 6:30 pm, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
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> > > > On Thursday 23 January 2003 08:01, Laur Ivan wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > My name is Laur Ivan and I've coded a couple of visual enhancements
> for
> > > > > KDE (http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4750). Can you
> please
> > > > > have a look and tell me what you think?
> > > >
> > > > unified diffs would be nice.
> > > >
> > > > for the kicker menubutton arrows: those are already drawn in
> accordance to
> > > > the style, as you noted... and IMO it should stay that way, at least
> by
> > > > default. i can see perhaps allowing it to be overriden by a specially
> > > > named/located pixmap, but that sounds a lot like bloat to me =/ hard
> to say
> > > > w/out seeing the patches really...
> > > >
> > > > > ...and a question: Would the moving from private: to protected: of
> the
> > > > > "KWordWrap* m_wordWrap" in KIconViewItem keep the binary
> > > > > compatibility..? (wishful thinking...)
> > > >
> > > > if access is needed to it, how about a protected wordWrap() accessor?
> this
> > > > would preserve BC...
> > > >
> > > > - --
> > > > Aaron J. Seigo
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> > > > "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler"
> > > > - Albert Einstein
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> > Laur Ivan Tel : +353-1-6674336
> > Software Design Engineer eMail:
> > laur.ivan@corvil.com
> > Corvil Ltd.
> >
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Laur Ivan Tel : +353-1-6674336
Software Design Engineer eMail:
laur.ivan@corvil.com
Corvil Ltd.
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