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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Upcoming 2.2 release schedule, bickering and bugs
From:       "Thomas Diehl" <thd () kde ! org>
Date:       2001-06-22 5:48:01
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:09:38 +0200 (CEST), Harri Porten wrote:

>I know everybody is working very hard but I have one comment: Waldo has
>posted the release schedule a loooong time ago. Many developers (including
>me) have tried to adjust to that (including the inevitable small delays)
>by making realistic goals in terms of planned features. Now, some other
>parts of the project are lagging behind and the respective maintainers ask
>for further delays. Technical or spare-time problems ?
>Misjudgement of the required amount of work ? Unrealistic target, i.e. too
>many features at once ? I don't know. Certainly different in each case.

Just a word on translations: Thanks to the great work of our brand new
proof-reading team, also to a 1900+ messagess PO file that turned up
the last minute, and to quite a few new app strings (requested by
developers) things are in worse shape at our end now than they were in
former releases at this point. This is no complaint. It's great that
all those misspelled strings were corrected and that others became
translatable which weren't before but now many teams could just use
some extra time to get this stuff translated. None of these points was
really foreseeable when the release plan was posted (except maybe
developers requesting new strings;-).

>But until we have some mechanism for feature plans (your proposal above) I
>urge every developer to a) set himself realistic goals (safe side
>calculation, there *will* be another release) and b) speak up in time

OK, as a personal statement and just for the record: I think the "one
beta only" approach is fundamentally wrong. Users should not only have
a fair chance to report bugs but also get at least another test version
to check whether the bugs were fixed or not. And to check whether a bug
fix didn't break the app at another point.

From a translators point again: To me, it wouldn't make much difference
if the requested extra time would come from a delayed beta release or
from a extended beta period. (And to avoid misunderstandings: the
message freeze should be kept either way -- new strings only after
talking to the translators.)

Regards,

Thomas




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