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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: While were making controversial suggestions... ;)
From:       Kurt Granroth <granroth () kde ! org>
Date:       2000-04-28 18:16:55
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mosfet wrote:
> I figure since were making controversial suggestions I figured I
> might as well make one of mine ;-) After the freeze is over I want
> to make B2/KDE the default KWin style instead of the current KDE1.x
> style. No one is really working on the KDE1.x style, and B2/KDE was
> designed to use the same style buttons but with a cooler frame and
> titlebar. Other developers also seem to like it and have submitted
> patches for doing things like moving the titlebar around by holding
> down the shift key and drawing improvements, something they never
> did with the KDE1.x style plugin.
 
By "B2/KDE" are you referring to the "B II" kwin style?  If so, then I
object :-)

The BeOS style titlebars are cute and the sliding bars are fun to show
off.. but the style is by far the most impractial style of them all.
Say you have to windows that slightly overlap each other.  If the one
on the left has focus, then the titlebar of the second app is totally
obscured... if you want to move that window, it's a pain.

Also, the BeOS style titlebars do a terrible job of Fitts law :-)
They provide a very small target AND the target size is inconsistent.

That said, I *do* agree that we should not use the KDE 1.x style
plugin as the default.

IMO, I think that either System or Laptop should be the default --
probably System.

Now both do have very small problems though: System should have a
frame around the border just like Laptop, B II, and ModernSystem do.
With the System style, the menus look like they are on *top* of the
window... with the other three styles I named, the menus look like
they are embedded in the window.  The latter looks a LOT better.

Laptop should have a smaller size grip (like the size of
MondernSystem) and should allow you to resize the window on all of the
edges, not just the top and right side.
-- 
Kurt Granroth            | http://www.granroth.org
KDE Developer/Evangelist | SuSE Labs Open Source Developer
granroth@kde.org         | granroth@suse.com
           KDE -- Putting a Friendly Face on Unix

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