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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: Decision Making (was Re: PROPOSAL: "Mac" menubar as default)
From:       mosfet <mosfet () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2000-04-28 2:31:49
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This would work if KDE was done by voting. It isn't ;-) Design by voting
is wrong because sometimes the majority is wrong or not as informed as a
minority. Controversial issues are discussed here and I cannot think of
one instance where a solution wasn't found by debate. It's a private
list and everyone here wants what is good for KDE.

I actually find such debating good. Lets me yell and scream a little at
least, which always makes me feel better :) 

As far as this topic, I don't see why you seem to feel the thread calls
for a formal voting process. As far as I'm concerned the answer has
already been found, "IMHO the mac menubar is superior but
interoperability restricts it from being the default". I think most
people would agree with at least the latter, if not the former.

Don Sanders wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Kurt Granroth wrote:
> > We had the capability in KDE 1.x and now in 2.0 to have a MacOS-like
> > menubar on the top of the screen.  I propose that we make this the
> > *default* menubar state in KDE 2.0.
> 
> I do not wish to comment directly on this issue. However I would like to point
> out that I believe a more structured process for deciding on controversial
> issues (such as this one) would be beneficial to KDE.
> 
> Often ideas are suggested and if those ideas are supported by a clear majority
> then they can be discussed productively and implemented. But in the case where
> an idea is not supported by a clear majority an often unproductive dispute
> arises which can have detrimental side effects (remember the discussion about
> the leafy background?)
> 
> Basically I think controversial issues should be open for discussion for a
> period of time and then decided on by vote.
> 
> A simple example of such a system would be
> http://jakarta.apache.org/guidelines/decisions.html
> 
> (This system with its single veto vote rule is probably overly simplistic for
> our needs).
> 
> I am not suggesting an immediate course of action, I just want to make sure
> that people are aware of their options.
> 
> BFN,
> Don.

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