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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    Re: PROPOSAL: "Mac" menubar as default
From:       mosfet <mosfet () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2000-04-27 10:58:27
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Torsten Rahn wrote:
> 
> Kurt Granroth wrote:
> > Have you actually had somebody *time* you doing this?  That's one of
> > the things that piss off "real" UI folk... people often perceive speed
> > much differently then is really the case.  The only thing that matters
> > in the end is the stopwatch.
> 
> Personally when I went to the institute of physics everyday I preferred
> the slightly longer way as it enriches my life by not being as deadly
> boring as the short-cut. The longer way "felt" shorter although
> it took me 10 minutes instead of 7 minutes. And this is important
> for users.
> 
> People who use KDE don't stand there with a clock in their hands
> to measure what is faster. They will just use whatever feels faster.
> 
> > Exactly!  That's why I want it to be the default.  Since most people
> > *won't* change the default, we should make sure that the defaults are
> > the best possible ones...
> 
> And this "We-know-it-better-than-you-and-therefore-we-will-make-you-suck
> -it-down-your-long-long-throat"-approach is exactly the right way to
> make people feel angry and pissed off.
> 

Mac people don't seem to mind ;-) The Windows menubar default is shoving
the slower implementation down on Mac people's throat just as much as
the reverse.

> > Well, as you said, most people don't change defaults.
> 
> > We will have an upgrade or welcome wizard that can implement Lotzi's
> > suggestion of having many major config items right up front.  The mac
> > menubar can be one of those items... I just want it checked ON as the
> > default.
> 
> And you obviously know that 30% of the people won't look at these
> annoying dialogs popping up on the screen just clicking mindless
> on the defaults , crying out: "What-a-crap!" and going back to what
> they were used to (Windows).
> So making a decision doesn't go away for us by creating this
> upgrade-wizard.
> 
> Tackat
> 
> > --
> > Kurt Granroth            | http://www.granroth.org
> > KDE Developer/Evangelist | SuSE Labs Open Source Developer
> > granroth@kde.org         | granroth@suse.com
> >            KDE -- Putting a Friendly Face on Unix

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