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List:       kde-core-devel
Subject:    RE: More thoughts about embedding
From:       Reginald Stadlbauer <reggie () troll ! no>
Date:       1999-09-30 9:01:45
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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, David Faure wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, David Faure wrote:
>> >I think we are mixing issues.
>> >
>> >(The first part replies especially to Reggie's "embedding 
>> doesn't work in
>> >koffice anyway")
>> >
>> >Sure, embedding doesn't work well in koffice currently,
>> >but konqueror is the living proof that embedding can work 
>> really fine.
>> >And you'll notice that it works very well with 'local views'
>> >(icon, html, text, ...) and somewhat well with remote views,
>> >(kview, ...) but not as well. Why ? Because servers are bad, 
>> > I already said that.
>> 
>> My biggest concern here is not only stableness, but also 
>> speed. In konqy you will not have more than a view embedded 
>> parts, but in a koffice doc I can imagine 50 embedded parts. 
>
>Yes and no.
>konqueror, even at startup, already uses embedding. It uses it
>for ANY view you can see in it. In koffice, the native view isn't embedded.
>Sure, in a document you can go up to 50 embedded parts if you
>want, but AFAIK, even under Windows nobody does it. But
>let's not argue on numbers it's pointless.
>My main point (and yours, remember) _is_ about stableness.
>About slowness, that's where we need to keep working on, and 
>I'm pretty sure cuteidl + tinymico + shared libs instead of remote processes
>can make a huge difference.
>
>The design of openparts does NOT make embedding broken, otherwise it
>wouldn't work in konqueror. But there's something broken in the way koffice
>does embedding, and we need to fix it.

But then we (not me, I'm not a CORBA guru :-) should start fixing in the
KOffice. It's there borken now for more than a year (this means since we
switched from shared libs to CORBA).

-- 
Reggie

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