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Subject: Re: Adopting AppData in KDE?
From: henry miller <hank () millerfarm ! com>
Date: 2013-11-03 18:49:52
Message-ID: dd06ac7e-3940-4917-9796-175206134ede () email ! android ! com
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Richard Hughes <hughsient@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please don't portray me as a modern-day highwayman as I'm really just
> trying to build an awesome application installer for GNOME. It's two
> orders of magnitude harder to actually write a shared standard and ask
> other desktops to adopt it (making changes as required) rather than a
> quick hack that just works with one desktop on one distribution.
Let me rewritte the above into a FAQ format:
Q: Why does KDE not ship appdata files
A: the maintainers of appdata have admited they have no interest in standards, thus \
KDE has no formal ability to get things we need changed. In addition while appdata \
claims to be distribution/gnome, it really is a Fedora thing and few other \
distribution packages use it, thus violating KDEs no patches for on distribution \
only.
Is appdata good or bad? I say bad, not on technial grounds, but social: the effort to \
standardise something that should be standardised was not done. It meets Fedoras \
needs, but what about debian? What about netbed. What about... Yes standardization \
is a lot of effort, that is because getting a good compromise for everyone is hard.
KDE should in my opinion refuse appdata in hopes that the next time someone has a \
great idea they remember appdata failed (or took too long to catch on) because it \
failed presue standardization early. If someone has a better idea how to stop \
developers from this anti-social behavor I'm open to it so I can consider appdata on \
technial merits like it should be.
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<html><head></head><body><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Richard Hughes \
<hughsient@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt \
0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> <pre \
class="k9mail">On 3 November 2013 14:04, Felix Rohrbach <fxrh@gmx.de> wrote:<br \
/><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px \
solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">"Nice application you have there, would be a shame \
if something would...<br />happen to it."</blockquote><br />Not at all. If something \
as important as Krita didn't ship an AppData<br />file in Fedora 22, we'd just write \
one ourselves and put it in the<br />Fedora srpm file. I've written ~80 AppData files \
myself and sent<br />nearly all of them upstream already. I've now got a few \
volunteers<br />doing the same thing to all manner of upstreams.<br /><br \
/><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px \
solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;">Imho it's a matter of respect to discuss a \
standard beforehand with a<br />community. And this threat to exclude apps, \
well...</blockquote><br />Please don't portray me as a modern-day highwayman as I' m
really just<br />trying to build an awesome application installer for GNOME. It's \
two<br />orders of magnitude harder to actually write a shared standard and ask<br \
/>other desktops to adopt it (making changes as required) rather than a<br />quick \
hack that just works with one desktop on one distribution.<br /><br />Richard<br \
/></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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