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Subject: Re: KDE now has its own Matrix infrastructure
From: Andy B <anditosan1000 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2019-02-28 15:08:14
Message-ID: 0cadec36-312b-4f79-b7c9-a28bd2135654 () Spark
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Andy Betts
KDE Board
On Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 AM -0700, Jonathan Riddell <jr@jriddell.org>, wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 03:06:22PM -0800, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
> > Hey Jon, I hope that the CWG response was not dismissive, and you were
> > certainly not ignored. We always listen and try to help when possible. If you
> > didn't feel at the very least listened to, we failed there.
> >
> > You are one of the most stalwart and longest-serving volunteers, so when you
> > are unhappy and angry, I don't think anyone is happy about that. That doesn't
> > mean that all of us see your list above as an accurate statement.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> In over a decade of helping promo in KDE it was always the case that
> someone could come in and show willingness and competance and be given
> access to the accounts needed to be a full member. When I left the
> team in 2017 and came back in 2018 this had changed and I was told I
> could not get access to accounts, a decision which seems to have been
> taken by the e.v. board. We fixed this after Akademy 2018 with a
> formal policy. Will the CWG now look into why this change happened
> against the norms everywhere else in KDE?
>
> Jonathan
There has to be context to this, now that we have moved from the main topic and now \
dedicate this thread to solve issues that Jonathan has expressed. Maybe we can start \
a new thread.
To be clear, Jonathan has repeatedly used little tact when releasing information to \
the public. The e.V. Board received complaints and requests to manage the situation. \
We decided to do so and work with Jonathan to review his publication practices in \
social media. On his insistence, we worked to have a more clear policy of access to \
social media. Policy that Jonathan himself would follow. The Board agreed that this \
could help shape the way that Jonathan and others provide public, WIP information to \
the general public and have more tact when doing so.
Why is this still an issue that requires the CWG? I am not even sure. I thought \
Jonathan was over this when we did as he required, create an access policy within \
Promo.
Thank you,
Andy
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<div name="messageReplySection" style="font-size: 14px; font-family: -apple-system, \
BlinkMacSystemFont, sans-serif;">On Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 AM -0700, Jonathan Riddell \
<jr@jriddell.org>, wrote:<br /> <blockquote type="cite" style="margin: 5px 5px; \
padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #1abc9c;">On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at \
03:06:22PM -0800, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:<br /> <blockquote type="cite" \
style="margin: 5px 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: thin solid #e67e22;">Hey \
Jon, I hope that the CWG response was not dismissive, and you were<br /> certainly \
not ignored. We always listen and try to help when possible. If you<br /> didn't feel \
at the very least listened to, we failed there. <br /> <br />
You are one of the most stalwart and longest-serving volunteers, so when you<br />
are unhappy and angry, I don't think anyone is happy about that. That doesn't<br />
mean that all of us see your list above as an accurate statement.<br /></blockquote>
<br />
Thanks :)<br />
<br />
In over a decade of helping promo in KDE it was always the case that<br />
someone could come in and show willingness and competance and be given<br />
access to the accounts needed to be a full member. When I left the<br />
team in 2017 and came back in 2018 this had changed and I was told I<br />
could not get access to accounts, a decision which seems to have been<br />
taken by the e.v. board. We fixed this after Akademy 2018 with a<br />
formal policy. Will the CWG now look into why this change happened<br />
against the norms everywhere else in KDE?<br />
<br />
Jonathan <br /></blockquote>
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<div>There has to be context to this, now that we have moved from the main topic and \
now dedicate this thread to solve issues that Jonathan has expressed. Maybe we can \
start a new thread.</div> <div><br /></div>
<div>To be clear, Jonathan has repeatedly used little tact when releasing information \
to the public. The e.V. Board received complaints and requests to manage the \
situation. We decided to do so and work with Jonathan to review his publication \
practices in social media. On his insistence, we worked to have a more clear policy \
of access to social media. Policy that Jonathan himself would follow. The Board \
agreed that this could help shape the way that Jonathan and others provide public, \
WIP information to the general public and have more tact when doing so.</div> \
<div><br /></div> <div>Why is this still an issue that requires the CWG? I am not \
even sure. I thought Jonathan was over this when we did as he required, create an \
access policy within Promo.</div> <div><br /></div>
<div>Thank you,</div>
<div><br /></div>
<div>Andy</div>
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