From kde-community Thu Feb 28 15:08:14 2019 From: Andy B Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2019 15:08:14 +0000 To: kde-community Subject: Re: KDE now has its own Matrix infrastructure Message-Id: <0cadec36-312b-4f79-b7c9-a28bd2135654 () Spark> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-community&m=155136652319597 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--5c77f963_1befd79f_914c" --5c77f963_1befd79f_914c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Andy Betts KDE Board On Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 AM -0700, Jonathan Riddell , wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 03:06:22PM -0800, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > Hey Jon, I hope that the CWG response was not dismissive, and you were > > certainly not ignored. We always listen and try to help when possible. If you > > didn't feel at the very least listened to, we failed there. > > > > You are one of the most stalwart and longest-serving volunteers, so when you > > are unhappy and angry, I don't think anyone is happy about that. That doesn't > > mean that all of us see your list above as an accurate statement. > > Thanks :) > > In over a decade of helping promo in KDE it was always the case that > someone could come in and show willingness and competance and be given > access to the accounts needed to be a full member. When I left the > team in 2017 and came back in 2018 this had changed and I was told I > could not get access to accounts, a decision which seems to have been > taken by the e.v. board. We fixed this after Akademy 2018 with a > formal policy. Will the CWG now look into why this change happened > against the norms everywhere else in KDE? > > Jonathan There has to be context to this, now that we have moved from the main topic and now dedicate this thread to solve issues that Jonathan has expressed. Maybe we can start a new thread. To be clear, Jonathan has repeatedly used little tact when releasing information to the public. The e.V. Board received complaints and requests to manage the situation. We decided to do so and work with Jonathan to review his publication practices in social media. On his insistence, we worked to have a more clear policy of access to social media. Policy that Jonathan himself would follow. The Board agreed that this could help shape the way that Jonathan and others provide public, WIP information to the general public and have more tact when doing so. Why is this still an issue that requires the CWG? I am not even sure. I thought Jonathan was over this when we did as he required, create an access policy within Promo. Thank you, Andy --5c77f963_1befd79f_914c Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

Andy Betts
KDE Board
On =46eb 28, 20= 19, 5:13 AM -0700, Jonathan Riddell <jr=40jriddell.org>, wrote:
On Wed, =46eb 27, 2019 at 03:0= 6:22PM -0800, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
Hey Jon, I hope that the CWG r= esponse was not dismissive, and you were
certainly not ignored. We always listen and try to help when possible. If= you
didn't feel at the very least listened to, we failed there.&=23160;
=
You are one of the most stalwart and longest-serving volunteers, so when = you
are unhappy and angry, I don't think anyone is happy about that. That doe= sn't
mean that all of us see your list above as an accurate statement.

Thanks :)

In over a decade of helping promo in KDE it was always the case that
someone could come in and show willingness and competance and be given access to the accounts needed to be a full member. When I left the
team in 2017 and came back in 2018 this had changed and I was told I
could not get access to accounts, a decision which seems to have been
taken by the e.v. board. We fixed this after Akademy 2018 with a
formal policy. Will the CWG now look into why this change happened
against the norms everywhere else in KDE=3F

Jonathan&=23160;


There has to be context to this, now that we have moved from the mai= n topic and now dedicate this thread to solve issues that Jonathan has ex= pressed. Maybe we can start a new thread.

To be clear, Jonathan has repeatedly used little tact when releasing= information to the public. The e.V. Board received complaints and reques= ts to manage the situation. We decided to do so and work with Jonathan to= review his publication practices in social media. On his insistence, we = worked to have a more clear policy of access to social media. Policy that= Jonathan himself would follow. The Board agreed that this could help sha= pe the way that Jonathan and others provide public, WIP information to th= e general public and have more tact when doing so.

Why is this still an issue that requires the CWG=3F I am not even su= re. I thought Jonathan was over this when we did as he required, create a= n access policy within Promo.

Thank you,

Andy


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