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Subject:    Re: [kde-community] [Kde-pim] A new home for Mozilla Thunderbird at KDE?
From:       Pau Garcia i Quiles <pgquiles () elpauer ! org>
Date:       2016-04-27 21:50:18
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On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Eike Hein <hein@kde.org> wrote:


> If we were to incubate Thunderbird, it would need to supply really
> really strong answers for how it's going to pull its own weight to
> offset the resource and PR cost.
>
>
(Forgot to reply to this)

I am not especially worried about this.

When a company "offloads" an unwanted product or division, the agreement
usually involves money exchanging hands (in this case from Mozilla to KDE)
to pay for the adaptation, initial setup, maybe some developers, etc

I am actually more worried about our ability to manage too many resources.

One of the articles I read about Thunderbird going to some new organization
mentioned the SFC was worried Thunderbird would be one of the biggest, if
not the biggest, project under their umbrella. According to the financial
statement for 2014 (released end of February 2015), they manage around USD
1M and their biggest project is Samba, with USD 177k.

https://sfconservancy.org/docs/conservancy_independent-audit_fy-2014.pdf

Mozilla, on the other hand, has around USD 137M:

https://static.mozilla.com/moco/en-US/pdf/Mozilla_Audited_Financials_2014.pdf

The eV is much smaller than any of those.

-- 
Pau Garcia i Quiles
http://www.elpauer.org

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<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr \
27, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Eike Hein <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hein@kde.org" \
target="_blank">hein@kde.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
If we were to incubate Thunderbird, it would need to supply really<br>
really strong answers for how it&#39;s going to pull its own weight to<br>
offset the resource and PR cost.<br>
<br></blockquote><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">(Forgot to reply to \
this)<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I am not especially worried about \
this.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">When a company &quot;offloads&quot; an \
unwanted product or division, the agreement usually involves money exchanging hands \
(in this case from Mozilla to KDE) to pay for the adaptation, initial setup, maybe \
some developers, etc<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I am actually more worried \
about our ability to manage too many resources.<br><br></div><div \
class="gmail_quote">One of the articles I read about Thunderbird going to some new \
organization mentioned the SFC was worried Thunderbird would be one of the biggest, \
if not the biggest, project under their umbrella. According to the financial \
statement for 2014 (released end of February 2015), they manage around USD 1M and \
their biggest project is Samba, with USD 177k. <br><br><a \
href="https://sfconservancy.org/docs/conservancy_independent-audit_fy-2014.pdf">https: \
//sfconservancy.org/docs/conservancy_independent-audit_fy-2014.pdf</a><br><br></div><div \
class="gmail_quote">Mozilla, on the other hand, has around USD 137M:<br><br><a \
href="https://static.mozilla.com/moco/en-US/pdf/Mozilla_Audited_Financials_2014.pdf">h \
ttps://static.mozilla.com/moco/en-US/pdf/Mozilla_Audited_Financials_2014.pdf</a><br><br></div><div \
class="gmail_quote">The eV is much smaller than any of those.<br></div><div \
class="gmail_quote"><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">Pau Garcia i \
Quiles<br><a href="http://www.elpauer.org" \
target="_blank">http://www.elpauer.org</a><br></div> </div></div>


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