From kde-community Wed Apr 27 21:50:18 2016 From: Pau Garcia i Quiles Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:50:18 +0000 To: kde-community Subject: Re: [kde-community] [Kde-pim] A new home for Mozilla Thunderbird at KDE? Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-community&m=146179385604291 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============0683567505649207145==" --===============0683567505649207145== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113e2a7674b5de05317e669b --001a113e2a7674b5de05317e669b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Eike Hein wrote: > If we were to incubate Thunderbird, it would need to supply really > really strong answers for how it's going to pull its own weight to > offset the resource and PR cost. > > (Forgot to reply to this) I am not especially worried about this. When a company "offloads" an unwanted product or division, the agreement usually involves money exchanging hands (in this case from Mozilla to KDE) to pay for the adaptation, initial setup, maybe some developers, etc I am actually more worried about our ability to manage too many resources. One of the articles I read about Thunderbird going to some new organization mentioned the SFC was worried Thunderbird would be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, project under their umbrella. According to the financial statement for 2014 (released end of February 2015), they manage around USD 1M and their biggest project is Samba, with USD 177k. https://sfconservancy.org/docs/conservancy_independent-audit_fy-2014.pdf Mozilla, on the other hand, has around USD 137M: https://static.mozilla.com/moco/en-US/pdf/Mozilla_Audited_Financials_2014.pdf The eV is much smaller than any of those. -- Pau Garcia i Quiles http://www.elpauer.org --001a113e2a7674b5de05317e669b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Eike Hein <hein@kde.org> wro= te:


If we were to incubate Thunderbird, it would need to supply really
really strong answers for how it's going to pull its own weight to
offset the resource and PR cost.


(Forgot to reply to t= his)

I am not especially worried ab= out this.

When a company "offl= oads" an unwanted product or division, the agreement usually involves = money exchanging hands (in this case from Mozilla to KDE) to pay for the ad= aptation, initial setup, maybe some developers, etc

I am actually more worried about our ability to manage too= many resources.

One of the article= s I read about Thunderbird going to some new organization mentioned the SFC= was worried Thunderbird would be one of the biggest, if not the biggest, p= roject under their umbrella. According to the financial statement for 2014 = (released end of February 2015), they manage around USD 1M and their bigges= t project is Samba, with USD 177k.

https://sfconservancy.= org/docs/conservancy_independent-audit_fy-2014.pdf

The eV is mu= ch smaller than any of those.

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Pau Garcia i Quiles
http://www.elpauer.org
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