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Subject:    Re: [kde-community] =?utf-8?q?=5BKde-pim=5D_A_new_home_for_Mozilla_Th?=
From:       Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzer () kde ! org>
Date:       2016-04-27 22:32:17
Message-ID: a01417e560b01a37e55293e4ca59a8d1 () posteo ! de
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Am 27.04.2016 23:33 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
> El dimecres, 27 d'abril de 2016, a les 23:15:00 CEST, Frederik 
> Schwarzer va
> escriure:
>> Am 27.04.2016 23:09 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
>> > El dimecres, 27 d'abril de 2016, a les 13:35:41 CEST, Frederik
>> > Schwarzer va
>> >
>> > escriure:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I share Eike's concerns about the extra workload for our sysadmins and
>> >> I
>> >> think they should definitely have a word in this.
>> >> While a welcoming atmosphere is a great goal and should be strived for
>> >> in general, technical issues should be handled as such.
>> >> So I guess we need to ask concrete questions like:
>> >> - what do the Thunderbird developers expect from their future host and
>> >> can we deliver that?
>> >> - what are the costs in terms of manpower on our side?
>> >> - are our sysadmins willing to let a bunch of contractors paid by
>> >> Mozilla run through our infrastructure and tell them what to do and
>> >> how?
>> >
>> > As far as i understand it, there would not be any contractor paid by
>> > Mozilla
>> > since Thunderbird wouldn't be Mozilla anymore, no?
>> 
>> As Jos pointed out, they are seeking to have a contractor help with 
>> the
>> migration.
>> https://careers.mozilla.org/position/ohUW2fwT
> 
> Sure, helping with the migration.
> 
> I don't know where you end up in "run through our infrastructure and 
> tell them
> what to do and how" from "helping with the migration".
> 
> What I would understand from "helping with the migration" is "make sure 
> you
> help Thunderbird land correctly in the destination organization by 
> helping
> such organization in whatever is needed."

Yep, well, whenever I see external contractors, they come, criticise 
what they see, make suggestions that there is no manpower available to 
realise, help implementing the suggestions half-bakedly and then rush 
out to the next contract. Surely that's a naysayer's point of view, 
which is based on my sceptical opinion about this. :)

Regards,
Frederik
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