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List:       kde-artists
Subject:    Re: K-ARTIST:SVG viewer?
From:       Vadim Plessky <lucy-ples () mtu-net ! ru>
Date:       2002-10-15 13:46:31
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On Tuesday 15 October 2002 3:00 pm, tackat@t-online.de wrote:
|  Vadim Plessky schrieb:
|  > On Tuesday 15 October 2002 1:11 pm, luciash d' being
|  >
|  > |  > I can recommend librsvg2, with 'rsvg' application
|  > capable to display SVG
|  > |  > on screen.
|
|  I can recommend ksvg.

Unfortunately, I can't - at least in its current state.

|
|  > But question is: what kind of renderer we (KDE users)
|  > need to get rid of PNG icons? Is Batik good enough to render icon at
|  22x22
|  > size?
|
|  What we are using for KDE to render SVG-icons is ksvg / ksvg2png.
|  All those SVGs which have been checked into kdelibs have been rendered
|
|  fine and they are rather complex. Although ksvg did have some problems
|  with
|  gradients until mid-september those problems have vanished since then.
|

What about *simple* example which I attached to my previous message (subject: 
KSVG vs. RSVG)? (undo-v2.2.svg)
I am not speaking about more complex examples, like files exported from 
CorelDRAW 10.


|  If you still should experience problems with certain SVG-files please
|  send
|  them to wildfox@kde.org or to rwlbuis. They will sell their grandmother
|

Unfortunately, wildfox doesn't reply to mails, and Rob is working on Karbon14.
So, it seems to me that KSVG is not maintained at a amoment. And this is 
biggest concern from my side.

|  to get them working ;-) And of course you should try to use the most
|  recent version of HEAD for that purpose.

Should someone make tar.bz2, or SRPM package from KSVG?
I am not position to use KDE CVS, just to het KSVG up an drunning.
librsvg2 is just 150K tarball, which you can compile in less thna 1 minute.
I am looking forward to see something similiar on KSVG side. Than compare 
quality/rendering speed.

|
|  > I would prefer to stay away from Adobe Illustrator 9
|  > (which is used by  Everaldo for Crystal icons)
|
|  I would prefer to stay away from Adobe Illustrator, too. But right now
|  it's
|  the only tool which one can use to create good-looking complex icons.
|  That's why Everaldo and me used ADobe Illustrator 9 sofar for creating
|  the SVGs of Crystal. However this will change soon:

BTW: i downloaded from kde-look.org Crystal 0.71, and it seems there are no 
SVG files inside tarball. Where I can get *SVG versions* of Crystal icons?

|
|  From KDE 3.1 on I will try to use Karbon14 which already seems to be
|  very near to being usable for that purpose. That's why I talked to
|  lenny and we agreed
|  that it would really make much sense to focus on getting karbon14 ready
|  for icons.

Fully agree with you!

|
|  For a screenshot of karbon14 and one of the dozens of crystal icons
|  that I
|  created see:
|
|  http://www.xs4all.nl/~rwlbuis/karbon/pics/svgimport5.png
|

I recognize kwrite.svg  :-)  Looks nice!
It's a pity that SVG import doesn't work in Karbon14 from KOffice 1.2.


|  The directory contains various interesting screenshots.
|  For another look at the new texttool have a look here:
|
|  http://www.xs4all.nl/~rwlbuis/karbon/pics/newtext2.png
|
|  > I think, good (in quality) and *fast* renderer is quite
|  > important for KDE success in the future.
|
|  Yes and that's why you want to use ksvg - or do you use Mozilla these
|  days, too ;-)?

No, I use Konq fro browsing, and librsvg2 for rendering.
I have small application called 'svgdisplay' which does two things: 
a) shows SVG on screen
b) converts it to PNG
It's a tweaked (by me) version of text-rsvg from librsvg-2.1.0

I also highly apprecitae the fact that Dom (librsvg2 maintainer) can fix 
reported bug in a day or two. Well, he hasn't managed to fix *all* bugs I 
reported to him, but he works really hard!

|
|  BTW: I am working from home now and got my new flat.

Congratulations!
Do you have plan of your new flat in SVG format?  :-)
Together with Window-view? ;-))

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