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List:       kde
Subject:    Re: Liscencing Issue - Taking Action
From:       mosfet <mosfet () mandrakesoft ! com>
Date:       2000-06-11 1:49:13
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forge wrote:
> 
> Another question.
> What prevents Debian from including
> QT, QT-KDE-ADDON, KDESUPPORT and KDELIBS ?
> Is there now a conflict between the LGPL, QPL, and BSD licenses ?

Their position is not even we kde core developers that write all our own
original code can link to Qt with an unmodified GPL. That's right - they
think it ambigious that we allow things like kdelibs, konqueror, kcalc,
etc... to link to Qt ;-) We wrote the configure to link to Qt, call Qt
in every GUI part of the application, uploaded it to KDE CVS, etc... yet
they insist that somehow it may not be allowed by us that you link to
Qt. Very, very silly stuff.

> 
> Maybe they would have included those things if they were sincere ?
> As for changing the license.  There really is no reason to bother
> unless you think it is a *real* legal problem.
> 
> mosfet wrote:
> >
> > troy wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Tim,
> > >
> > > On Fri, 09 Jun 2000, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> > > > Is this really happening and official, or is this just something Troy wants
> > > > to do? And if it is, I don't quite understand the changes - does it mean
> > > > that KDE will no longer be using verbatim GPL/LGPL licensing?
> > > >
> >
> > This is not official. It's something Troy (who I never heard of)
> > evidently decided to do on your own.
> >
> > > >   Thanks,
> > > >        Tim
> > > >
> > >
> > > Please visit the following for more information:
> > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/06/135218&mode=thread
> > > It shows the need for such a change.
> > >
> >
> > We don't change our licenses based on Slashdot articles.
> >
> > > Basically it is simply adding a clause to be able to 'legally' link to the
> > > GPL.  This is required by distros such a debain in order to include KDE.
> > >
> >
> > No it's not. They can include KDE at any time they like without legal
> > ramification. US law has something called intent that applies to
> > licenses, and saying applications in KDE CVS need to include specific
> > provisions in order to link to KDE is foolish in the extreme. Users have
> > the right to be able to use their programs, and Qt linking is a
> > requirement. It does not need to be specifically stated in the license.
> >
> > Many developers hacking in KDE CVS have discussed the issue and decided
> > not to give into Debian's demands since they are legally unjustified.
> >
> > Troy, you have the right to include anything you like in code that *you*
> > write. If you don't like the licenses others choose to use for the free
> > software they have written deal with it. Don't start going down a list
> > of every KDE CVS users and start harrassing them to change. That is an
> > extreme rudeness.
> >
> > > Troy Unrau
> > > jhtd@mts.net
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