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Subject: Re: Liscencing Issue - Taking Action
From: forge <forge () myrealbox ! com>
Date: 2000-06-10 23:18:01
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mosfet wrote:
>
> forge wrote:
> >
> > Another question.
> > What prevents Debian from including
> > QT, QT-KDE-ADDON, KDESUPPORT and KDELIBS ?
> > Is there now a conflict between the LGPL, QPL, and BSD licenses ?
>
> Their position is not even we kde core developers that write all our own
> original code can link to Qt with an unmodified GPL. That's right - they
> think it ambigious that we allow things like kdelibs, konqueror, kcalc,
> etc... to link to Qt ;-) We wrote the configure to link to Qt, call Qt
> in every GUI part of the application, uploaded it to KDE CVS, etc... yet
> they insist that somehow it may not be allowed by us that you link to
> Qt. Very, very silly stuff.
Maybe. but even then the argument is a GPL specific conflict. Why not
include those things that are not under the GPL ?
> >
> > Maybe they would have included those things if they were sincere ?
> > As for changing the license. There really is no reason to bother
> > unless you think it is a *real* legal problem.
> >
> > mosfet wrote:
> > >
> > > troy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Tim,
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 09 Jun 2000, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> > > > > Is this really happening and official, or is this just something Troy wants
> > > > > to do? And if it is, I don't quite understand the changes - does it mean
> > > > > that KDE will no longer be using verbatim GPL/LGPL licensing?
> > > > >
> > >
> > > This is not official. It's something Troy (who I never heard of)
> > > evidently decided to do on your own.
> > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please visit the following for more information:
> > > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/06/06/135218&mode=thread
> > > > It shows the need for such a change.
> > > >
> > >
> > > We don't change our licenses based on Slashdot articles.
> > >
> > > > Basically it is simply adding a clause to be able to 'legally' link to the
> > > > GPL. This is required by distros such a debain in order to include KDE.
> > > >
> > >
> > > No it's not. They can include KDE at any time they like without legal
> > > ramification. US law has something called intent that applies to
> > > licenses, and saying applications in KDE CVS need to include specific
> > > provisions in order to link to KDE is foolish in the extreme. Users have
> > > the right to be able to use their programs, and Qt linking is a
> > > requirement. It does not need to be specifically stated in the license.
> > >
> > > Many developers hacking in KDE CVS have discussed the issue and decided
> > > not to give into Debian's demands since they are legally unjustified.
> > >
> > > Troy, you have the right to include anything you like in code that *you*
> > > write. If you don't like the licenses others choose to use for the free
> > > software they have written deal with it. Don't start going down a list
> > > of every KDE CVS users and start harrassing them to change. That is an
> > > extreme rudeness.
> > >
> > > > Troy Unrau
> > > > jhtd@mts.net
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