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List:       gentoo-project
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-project] Fw: Your temporary 2 week suspension on interacting on the Gentoo Github page
From:       Dale <rdalek1967 () gmail ! com>
Date:       2017-05-17 7:46:47
Message-ID: 4b565f39-b843-3121-01e8-086ca5cfe3e8 () gmail ! com
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Michał Górny wrote:
> On śro, 2017-05-17 at 01:54 -0500, Dale wrote:
>> Michał Górny wrote:
>>> On wto, 2017-05-16 at 17:17 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> What stops me, is seeing someone who wants to help get shut down by others
>>>>>> just because they don't like him and in my opinion, targets him whenever
>>>>>> possible.
>>>>> You're making assumptions about motives.  The fact is that you don't
>>>>> have any knowledge about why some people aren't welcome in the
>>>>> community.
>>>> Actually, I'm basing it on what I can clearly see.  If I can see it,
>>>> don't you think others can too?  Again, ignoring it, trying to force
>>>> people not to talk about it, doesn't help the problem.  Like I said, I
>>>> been around Gentoo for a long time.  I won't be a dev because of lots of
>>>> things over the years I've seen happen, most of them in public.
>>> No. You won't become a dev because you are not doing *anything* but
>>> talking. Just like a number of other people on this mailing list who are
>>> rejected because of lack of willingness to do anything useful, and then
>>> they claim that they reject Gentoo because it is so bad.
>>>
>>> Just FYI because I'm getting tired of this recurring theme.
>>>
>> So you are ignoring some of the possible solutions and changes I
>> included in my other posts?  That is called doing something and I might
>> add, is more than most others are doing.  Most others seem to want to
>> ignore the problems for a while longer.  Then wonder why people keep
>> talking about it. 
> No, I am ignoring most of your posts because I do not have time to read
> them. Those parts which I've read are long and talk of nothing. As far
> as I'm concerned, your contributions are 90% wasting others' time on
> reading what you wrote.
>
> Before you start solving problems in Gentoo, focus on problems with
> yourself.
>

Maybe you should take your own??  Since you ignore most of my posts, no
wonder you don't see the information I'm providing.  You have to read
them to see it.  If you don't want to read them, why are you commenting
on them?  If I'm not going to bother to read your posts, I'm not going
to comment on it either.  I read yours.  Try reading mine or not
commenting thinking you know what is in it when you don't.   So far,
your posts bring 100% nothing to the table.  Your post is a 100% waste
of time.  Maybe you need to work on that and actually discuss the topic
instead?


>> Do you have any solutions you would like to post?  Or do you just want
>> to ignore that someone just posted that they are "incredibly
>> disappointed in the Gentoo Java team."?   How many more need to post
>> something like that before you actually post something that will help
>> solve the problem?  Let's hear your ideas on a solution. 
> One good solution would be to kick most of the non-developers out of
> this mailing list, so that discussion can focus back on Gentoo, and not
> on self-pity of one ex-dev diverted so any times that I have no idea
> what the topic is anymore. Last I read, it's about who is trolling who,
> and why trolling is good as long as you pretend it's important.
>
> Then maybe people will have time to work on Gentoo rather than be
> distracted by useless spam. Then maybe they will be able to accept
> contributions.
>

Just so you know, since you admit you don't read most of my posts, I am
talking about Gentoo in each and every post.  Maybe you should try
reading them before talking about what they are about since you have no
clue. 

My posts do not meet the definition of trolling.  Yours on the other
hand, just might.  You seem to be trying to get a response from me but
you will be sadly disappointed.  You won't get me to post something that
breaks the rules.  You can push it if you want but it won't get you
anywhere.  It might get attention that you would rather avoid tho. 
Others may tolerate it but this one might not. 

Since you mention spam.  Your post brings absolutely nothing to the
topic.  All it does is try to shut down meaningful discussion between
myself and a couple others even if you don't like the topic.  I might
add, a ex-dev is not the only topic.  If you would bother to read first,
you would know that.  This is also about a person who put months of
effort into java only to be ignored and that work not accomplishing
anything for that person.  It also left a bad impression on that person
given the way it was mishandled.   That has nothing to do with a ex-dev. 

When you are ready to read my posts and have a reasonable discussion,
post and let me know.  In the meantime, I don't need nor care to hear
your attitude.  If you don't want to read my posts or have a meaningful
exchange, ignore my posts in the future. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 


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