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List:       gentoo-project
Subject:    Re: [gentoo-project] Fw: Your temporary 2 week suspension on interacting on the Gentoo Github page
From:       Michał_Górny <mgorny () gentoo ! org>
Date:       2017-05-17 7:05:06
Message-ID: 1495004706.1804.5.camel () gentoo ! org
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On śro, 2017-05-17 at 01:54 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Michał Górny wrote:
> > On wto, 2017-05-16 at 17:17 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > > Rich Freeman wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > What stops me, is seeing someone who wants to help get shut down by others
> > > > > just because they don't like him and in my opinion, targets him whenever
> > > > > possible.
> > > > 
> > > > You're making assumptions about motives.  The fact is that you don't
> > > > have any knowledge about why some people aren't welcome in the
> > > > community.
> > > 
> > > Actually, I'm basing it on what I can clearly see.  If I can see it,
> > > don't you think others can too?  Again, ignoring it, trying to force
> > > people not to talk about it, doesn't help the problem.  Like I said, I
> > > been around Gentoo for a long time.  I won't be a dev because of lots of
> > > things over the years I've seen happen, most of them in public.
> > 
> > No. You won't become a dev because you are not doing *anything* but
> > talking. Just like a number of other people on this mailing list who are
> > rejected because of lack of willingness to do anything useful, and then
> > they claim that they reject Gentoo because it is so bad.
> > 
> > Just FYI because I'm getting tired of this recurring theme.
> > 
> 
> So you are ignoring some of the possible solutions and changes I
> included in my other posts?  That is called doing something and I might
> add, is more than most others are doing.  Most others seem to want to
> ignore the problems for a while longer.  Then wonder why people keep
> talking about it. 

No, I am ignoring most of your posts because I do not have time to read
them. Those parts which I've read are long and talk of nothing. As far
as I'm concerned, your contributions are 90% wasting others' time on
reading what you wrote.

Before you start solving problems in Gentoo, focus on problems with
yourself.

> Do you have any solutions you would like to post?  Or do you just want
> to ignore that someone just posted that they are "incredibly
> disappointed in the Gentoo Java team."?   How many more need to post
> something like that before you actually post something that will help
> solve the problem?  Let's hear your ideas on a solution. 

One good solution would be to kick most of the non-developers out of
this mailing list, so that discussion can focus back on Gentoo, and not
on self-pity of one ex-dev diverted so any times that I have no idea
what the topic is anymore. Last I read, it's about who is trolling who,
and why trolling is good as long as you pretend it's important.

Then maybe people will have time to work on Gentoo rather than be
distracted by useless spam. Then maybe they will be able to accept
contributions.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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