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List:       fedora-devel-list
Subject:    Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements
From:       Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel () gmail ! com>
Date:       2021-10-17 19:56:07
Message-ID: CAOCN9rxi5NxMgWT5dnAxpr+PEExcZrptLe2nkH1O5qJ8B2yyOA () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 3:36 PM Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com> wrote:
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> 
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:01 PM Kevin Kofler via devel \
> <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I still remember how Red Hat Linux and (IIRC) Fedora Core 1 could be booted
> > from a floppy (older Red Hat Linux releases even had a fully functioning
> > rescue mode on the floppy, later ones could at least still boot a HDD
> > install from the boot floppy, which is how I installed them, and in that way
> > also boot the rescue mode). These days, the minimum boot image (know known
> > as the netinst ISO) barely fits on a CD, and in Fedora 33 even exceeded CD
> > size (https://pagure.io/minimization/issue/23). The Fedora 34 netinst image
> > is still 450 times the size of a floppy!
> 
> 
> 
> The top two reasons for this: a significant portion of anaconda used to be \
> downloaded, and now is included on the media; linux-firmware bloat, which is the \
> fastest growing package for the past few years. Front this point there's a bunch of \
> pressure points and trade-offs. This cycle we were over CD-ROM size of 700MiB, and \
> ended up trimming out about 30M from linux-firmware. 
> --
> Chris Murphy

It's also X based with GUI's, rather than an ncurses based graphical
interface. Reviewing a fresh install, there is little to nothing that
couldn't be done in a much, much smaller text interface going through
a linear checklist with ncurses, and follow Eric Raymond's old
guidelines for open source interfaces titled "The Luxury of
Ignorance". But some folks like pretty GUIs, even though sophisticated
GUI's cost resources to run.
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