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List:       fedora-devel-list
Subject:    Re: Fedora minimum hardware requirements
From:       Chris Murphy <lists () colorremedies ! com>
Date:       2021-10-17 19:36:13
Message-ID: CAJCQCtTprgcS8FPQhzXCeovg5VeENDBvxkxJdSW77b_w5bhTQg () mail ! gmail ! com
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On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:01 PM Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

>
>
> I still remember how Red Hat Linux and (IIRC) Fedora Core 1 could be
> booted
> from a floppy (older Red Hat Linux releases even had a fully functioning
> rescue mode on the floppy, later ones could at least still boot a HDD
> install from the boot floppy, which is how I installed them, and in that
> way
> also boot the rescue mode). These days, the minimum boot image (know known
> as the netinst ISO) barely fits on a CD, and in Fedora 33 even exceeded CD
> size (https://pagure.io/minimization/issue/23). The Fedora 34 netinst
> image
> is still 450 times the size of a floppy!



The top two reasons for this: a significant portion of anaconda used to be
downloaded, and now is included on the media; linux-firmware bloat, which
is the fastest growing package for the past few years. Front this point
there's a bunch of pressure points and trade-offs. This cycle we were over
CD-ROM size of 700MiB, and ended up trimming out about 30M from
linux-firmware.

--
Chris Murphy


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class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Oct 16, 2021, 10:01 PM Kevin Kofler via devel &lt;<a \
href="mailto:devel@lists.fedoraproject.org">devel@lists.fedoraproject.org</a>&gt; \
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I still remember how Red Hat Linux and (IIRC) Fedora Core 1 could be booted <br>
from a floppy (older Red Hat Linux releases even had a fully functioning <br>
rescue mode on the floppy, later ones could at least still boot a HDD <br>
install from the boot floppy, which is how I installed them, and in that way <br>
also boot the rescue mode). These days, the minimum boot image (know known <br>
as the netinst ISO) barely fits on a CD, and in Fedora 33 even exceeded CD <br>
size (<a href="https://pagure.io/minimization/issue/23" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" \
target="_blank">https://pagure.io/minimization/issue/23</a>). The Fedora 34 netinst \
image <br> is still 450 times the size of a floppy!</blockquote></div></div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The top two reasons \
for this: a significant portion of anaconda used to be downloaded, and now is \
included on the media; linux-firmware bloat, which is the fastest growing package for \
the past few  years. Front this point there&#39;s a bunch of pressure points and \
trade-offs. This cycle we were over CD-ROM size of 700MiB, and ended up trimming out \
about 30M from linux-firmware.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">--</div><div dir="auto">Chris Murphy</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 \
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></div></div></div>


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