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Subject:    [Quanta] Re: Quanta 4
From:       Robert Marmorstein <robert () narnia ! homeunix ! com>
Date:       2011-04-03 1:35:24
Message-ID: 20110402213524.90255q99bwmxnww8 () robot4 ! narnia ! homeunix ! com
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There was a decision a few years ago to port Quanta to the same  
codebase as kdevelop.  The common code would be called "kdevplatform".  
  I am not sure this was a wise decision -- what has happened since  
then seems to be that development on Quanta has more or less stalled.   
I think a large part of that is the increased complexity of the  
codebase since the move to kdevplatform.

There were good reasons for that decision, though.  If the port can be  
completed, the (much more active) developer base of kdevelop will  
automatically mean that Quanta gets important improvements and fixes.

I have tried using Quanta 4, but I feel that there are two significant  
issues that make it unsuitable as a production web development  
environment: no templates for web projects and no customization of the  
user interface when run in "Quanta" mode.

The template problem is a critical one, because if I go to "project  
new" all I see are "C++" and so forth projects.  There is no way to  
get a template for a basic web project.  So I started hacking on this  
earlier this week and created a few simple templates in my local git  
repository that you can use to start a single page XHTML site.  They  
aren't much, but they're a start.  What is the review process for  
getting these submitted?  Does quanta use reviewboard?  Or can I open  
up a "merge request" somehow?

The second problem is much harder to solve.  When I am developing a  
web application, I don't need to "compile" or "execute" the program --  
I need to preview it in a web browser.  Right now, the UI is very much  
geared toward C++ projects.

Figuring out how to remove the irrelevant web components and pull in  
the right ones is a much more difficult proposition than writing new  
templates.  What code should I be looking at to solve this one?  Is  
there a nice plugin-based architecture for this?  Do I need to write a  
new "projectmanager" or an "outputview"?  Or is it more complicated  
than that?

I don't have a lot of time to hack on this -- the small amount of  
"free" time I have, I would like to spend on koffice/Calligra (fixing  
variable support), but I would LOVE to see a KDE 4 application that  
was roughly comparable to the old Quanta 3 and I'm willing to invest a  
little time to at least get the project started again if that's  
possible.

Thanks for any help,

Robert

Quoting "Michael J. Hartwick" <hartwick@hartwick.com>:

> I can get Quanta 3.5 to run, but what I cannot get running is things like
> integrated Cervisia. I will try the alpha version for Quanta 4 and see if I
> can even get it to start. I used to be able to at least read and write C++
> but it has been a while so not sure how much I will have forgotten.
>
> Michael
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Michael J. Hartwick, VE3SLQ                      hartwick@hartwick.com
> Hartwick Communications Consulting                      (519) 396-7719
> Kincardine, ON, CA                             http://www.hartwick.com
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Werner Joss [mailto:werner@hoernerfranzracing.de]
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 12:26
>> To: quanta@mail.kde.org
>> Subject: [Quanta] Re: Quanta 4
>>
>> On Friday 01 April 2011 18:04:21 you wrote:
>> > Since I can't really cope without Quanta and suspect that there are
>> > many others out there like me, I'm sharing here how I've got Quanta
>> > 3.5.10 running beautifully on openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 w/ GNOME.....
>>
>> just for the record:
>> for debian based distros there is still a full featured kde3 quanta
>> (that
>> means incl. all kde3-kio-slaves like ftps, sftp,... ) at
>> http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
>> which runs nicely alongside any default kde4.x stuff.
>>
>> werner
>>
>>
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