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Subject:    Re: [Quanta] PHP Indenting
From:       Andras Mantia <amantia () kde ! org>
Date:       2006-03-15 9:52:00
Message-ID: 200603151152.00952.amantia () kde ! org
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On Wednesday 15 March 2006 11:29, Marko McLion wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 10:05, Andras Mantia wrote:
>
> Sorry Andras, but as of your writing somebody would think, that you
> don't use Quanta for PHP at all and neither does nobody that develops
> it. OK, 


You are not that wrong. I am a C++ coder, and I write Quanta for the 
users. I use it for PHP only a little and I don't expect things like 
indentation at that time (nor do I expect from a C++ editor, I do it 
myself).

> Kate is guilty for the faulty indentation of PHP. Their 
> effort is on C, Java and such. But they have developed a system as I
> understand that in theory could enable this type of indentation in
> PHP (works in C/C++ and Java)...
>
> Why nobody writes this thing/extension/whatever it is for the Kate
> part and puts it in Quanta?

Good question. But this is open source. As I don't know anything about 
the indentation system of Kate, I cannot do it better than any of you. 
You can contact the kate developers just like I could and ask for help 
if needed. If anybody does an indentation for PHP I'm sure either they 
will include in Kate or we can offer to download, that's not a problem. 
Just that somebody has to do it.


> Your answer (and of many developers, I mean no offence) is like "we
> make the car, the tires are from another company, please contact the
> company why with this tires our car does not run"... It's an
> essential part, you have chosen it, you're using it, you have to know
> how to make them work...if you don't, who will?

The makers of the tire. ;-) You know, this is the beauty of KDE. You can 
use parts that you don't know much about them. Do I care how the 
network transparency work? Do I care how the editor itself is 
implemented? Do I care how the CVS part (Cervisia) work? No, and I 
don't have to. (The fact that I know some of the things from here is 
different and not relevant). And also do I have to know how the C++ 
compiler works? I use them and that's all. And this separation makes 
things easier and let us grow faster by focusing only to our job and 
not something else.
As I know the parts used in Quanta itself, I can guide anyone to the 
right place where the problems can be solved. Now I said, that the Kate 
developers can help you and you can reach here and here. I don't think 
it is a big difference with talking with them instead of me. Oh, there 
is a big difference: they know their code, while I don't know theirs.

I hope you can understand the logic and you don't find my answer(s) 
arrogant.

Andras

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