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Subject:    Re: [Quanta] All Hail Quanta!  The ONE TRUE Web Editor!
From:       Eric Laffoon <sequitur () kde ! org>
Date:       2005-06-02 5:24:14
Message-ID: 200506012327.56344.sequitur () kde ! org
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Hi Sean,
What are you doing still hanging around? ;-)

On Wednesday 01 June 2005 05:23, sean@datafly.net wrote:
> I was all ready to to step out and leave KDE and Quanta behind -- but
> nothing else works worth a damn!  I'm still gonna leave KDE behind just
> for personal preference reasons.  But I honestly can't find a *single*
> other web editor out there that is usable for day to day PHP/HTML
> editing!

There is an irony here... It's like when you were a kid and you thought pasta 
from a can and cheap hot dogs were gourmet food. Of course once you spend a 
little time with the finer things in life you find that it's just really hard 
to tolerate those products of lesser standing. You come to see that there is 
a true intrinsic value to products that combine fine craftsmanship and 
artistic vision. It's like driving a really nice autobahn burner and then 
getting into a rusted econo-box. Of course the fact that Quanta is free just 
makes it that much cooler.

In my life I find that the aesthetic pursuits make life an enjoyable adventure 
instead of a slow crawl to a permanent resting place, and that I can't seem 
to do things half way. I'm guessing you are now just more refined in your 
taste. To my way of thinking, having value to offer is something we have to 
prove daily and of course, insane as I am, I'm also on a mission to make a 
difference.

> The one I was leaning towards is beautiful in nearly every way 
> -- it has built-in FTP and CVS, syntax highlighting and tag/function
> completion for for HTML and PHP -- it's great!  But there's just this
> one little thing:  You can never ever EVER type PHP within HTML like
> this:
> <img src="<?=$my_image?>">
>
> ...because it will ALWAYS convert the PHP '?>' to '?&gt;' -- and there's
> nothing you can do about it!  And the author acknowledges the bug but
> says that PHP compatibility is a "low priority".  So that means: It's
> unusable!  Crap!
>
> And the fishy one?  Don't even get me started.  Does it do ANYTHING that
> Kate or gEdit can't do?
>
> Then there's Dreamweaver... Well, the Mac version is just freakin' awful
> -- and I'm certainly not gonna start subjecting myself to Windows for
> Dreamweaver or anything else.

Heh, heh... Can I just bill you for it? ;-)
>
> BBEdit?  Nahhh.  VI?  Well, maybe.. it does have a certain minimalist
> appeal to it.  But not really practical for all day everyday project
> development.
>
> NVU?  Please - let's be serious.

Gee I heard they it.. Oh, that was their press.
>
> PageSpinner? TacoHTML?  They look really promising but they don't do
> multi-byte character encodings at all -- so for me they're out of the
> question.
>
> Hmmm... So let's see now, what does that leave us with?

Sounds like when I got involved with the project... I would have paid good 
money for the right tool but in the end I had to take on the design of it to 
get it. Some things you just have to have a really crazy person lose sleep 
and sanity over.
>
> Is it too late to withdraw my resignation?

Welcome back. All is forgiven and you are reinstated with full status as one 
of our favorite users. ;-)
>
> :-)
>
> Sean

I was going to give you two weeks, but I guess your tolerance for pain or my 
estimation for what's out there is off. Anyway we will continue to strive to 
make Quanta even better. You'll be all the more stuck, but I figure if we 
make you even more productive you will forgive us. ;-)
-- 
Eric Laffoon - Quanta+ Team Leader 
http://quanta.kdewebdev.org
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