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List:       kde-usability
Subject:    Re: KDE3 defaults
From:       Mikolaj Machowski <mikmach () wp ! pl>
Date:       2003-08-17 21:38:01
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On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 11:58:49AM -0700, Neil Stevens wrote:
> > > This isn't about UIs, this is about OSes.  kde-usability cannot detach
> > > KDE UI and usability from the OSes KDE runs on.  Until every
> > > underlying configuration file of every system setting on every
> > > operating system is implemented with a KDE UI, then even novice users
> > > will have need for text editors from time to time.  Novices will
> > > probably be reading a tutorial or being guided by another user, but
> > > they still need the text editor.
> >
> > There should not be that necessity.
> There is, though.  Wishing it weren't so doesn't change that.  KDE is a 
> graphical environment for Unix, and Unix does bring a requirement for 
> consoles and text editors.

1. KDE (as any other DE) is graphical environment for User.
2. MacOS X

> > If anything rather add to kcontrol possibility to edit config files and
> > restart services automagically.
> > Yeah, I know, *nix old-timers will cry.
> OK, when every OS KDE runs on has every app, both standard and third-party, 
> GUI-configurable, I'd agree that kwrite and konsole are less necessary.  
> That's not going to happen for a long time, though, if ever.

Nice solution is presented in lilo module in kcontrol.

> > Costs of retraining for use of Linux is Microsoft FUD. In most
> > offices/institutions etc. there will be _no_ retraining (or will last
> > 5 minutes). KDE should make switch for those users as easy as possible.
> If you want to use a GUI that requires no retraining from Windows, then 
> just use Windows!

You don't understand. In most institutions retraining from system to
system is: Hi, I bring you new box. It is similar to previous but nicer,
play with it. [authentic text Win3.11 -> Win95]
And this is _whole_ introduction. If workers are lucky they will be half
an hour meeting in biggest conference room (cinema) and guy from IT will
be explaining some things. But people will be chatting, smoking outside
etc.

> It's not Fear, Uncertainty, or Doubt.  It's truth:  If you switch to a new 
> environment, retraining for the new environment will be needed.  The only 
> way to avoid that is to kill anything good and different in KDE to blindly 
> copy Microsoft.

Probably it is needed. But in 80-90% of causes there will be no
retraining. Or no switch to KDE.

> > > > They don't know what names mean. Please read Relevantive report.
> > >
> > > The what?
> >
> > Look in archive.
> I did.  Any hints?

Linux Usability Report. relevantive A.G.
http://www.relevantive.de/Linux_e.html

m.
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