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List:       kde-bugs-dist
Subject:    [plasmashell] [Bug 391863] plasmashell gets in endless loop while screen is locked
From:       A. Wilcox (awilfox) <bugzilla_noreply () kde ! org>
Date:       2018-04-30 22:55:55
Message-ID: bug-391863-17878-oobjo0zQm3 () http ! bugs ! kde ! org/
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391863

--- Comment #6 from A. Wilcox (awilfox) <awilfox@adelielinux.org> ---
I am beginning to genuinely regret choosing KDE as our primary desktop
environment.

It feels like nobody in this entire project - or the Qt project for that matter
- has any understanding of what "LTS" means.  It means "long-term support" and
it means you have to actually fix crashing/locking bugs like this *in the long
term release*.

I can take the patch from bug 383828 and backport it to Qt 5.9, but if I do
that and it still happens, nobody will listen to me because it's not "Qt 5.11",
it's "Qt 5.9 with the necessary patch".  Time and time again this is all I get
from the KDE team AND the Qt team.

Stop using the name "LTS" if you aren't actually going to support releases for
the long term.  Qt 5.11 is not stable under some applications, it has many
other bugs, it has no long guarantee of support which is what we *need*, and
*it is not even released yet*.  Requiring an UNRELEASED VERSION of a library
for your Long Term Support release is completely UNACCEPTABLE.

Yes, I realise Qt is completely useless, and they have been for years, and I've
been dealing with bugs in Qt Declarative so long I've wondered why KDE ever
migrated to QML (as I'm sure you lot have at some points as well), and they
probably wouldn't even backport this to 5.9, but you could have at least
*ASKED* them to.

"The KDE ® Community is a free software community dedicated to creating an open
and user-friendly computing experience" -> directly from KDE.org.  Telling
people that their bugs are fixed if they go install a beta library that will
crash in other horrible ways is not a user-friendly computing experience.  The
project goals of Adélie Linux, just like the project goals of KDE, is to bring
truly libre computing to the masses.  Our beta testers have praised our efforts
at fighting to have good, stable releases across the board, and have said it
has made us one of the most stable distros left.  My vision is to have
computing accessible to all, regardless of experience or ability.  Using beta
crap is not fulfiling that vision nor is it fulfiling the goals of the KDE
Community.

Now, I'm going to backport that patch to 5.9 this week, and then I'm going to
push a Qt update, and then we'll see if it happens again.  Hopefully it
doesn't, but if it does, then this bug is being reopened, and no, "upgrade to a
beta" is NOT an acceptable resolution.

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