From kde-bugs-dist Mon Apr 30 22:55:55 2018 From: A. Wilcox (awilfox) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 22:55:55 +0000 To: kde-bugs-dist Subject: [plasmashell] [Bug 391863] plasmashell gets in endless loop while screen is locked Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-bugs-dist&m=152512896901444 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D391863 --- Comment #6 from A. Wilcox (awilfox) --- I am beginning to genuinely regret choosing KDE as our primary desktop environment. It feels like nobody in this entire project - or the Qt project for that ma= tter - has any understanding of what "LTS" means. It means "long-term support" = and it means you have to actually fix crashing/locking bugs like this *in the l= ong term release*. I can take the patch from bug 383828 and backport it to Qt 5.9, but if I do that and it still happens, nobody will listen to me because it's not "Qt 5.= 11", it's "Qt 5.9 with the necessary patch". Time and time again this is all I = get from the KDE team AND the Qt team. Stop using the name "LTS" if you aren't actually going to support releases = for the long term. Qt 5.11 is not stable under some applications, it has many other bugs, it has no long guarantee of support which is what we *need*, and *it is not even released yet*. Requiring an UNRELEASED VERSION of a library for your Long Term Support release is completely UNACCEPTABLE. Yes, I realise Qt is completely useless, and they have been for years, and = I've been dealing with bugs in Qt Declarative so long I've wondered why KDE ever migrated to QML (as I'm sure you lot have at some points as well), and they probably wouldn't even backport this to 5.9, but you could have at least *ASKED* them to. "The KDE=C2=AE Community is a free software community dedicated to creating= an open and user-friendly computing experience" -> directly from KDE.org. Telling people that their bugs are fixed if they go install a beta library that will crash in other horrible ways is not a user-friendly computing experience. = The project goals of Ad=C3=A9lie Linux, just like the project goals of KDE, is = to bring truly libre computing to the masses. Our beta testers have praised our eff= orts at fighting to have good, stable releases across the board, and have said it has made us one of the most stable distros left. My vision is to have computing accessible to all, regardless of experience or ability. Using be= ta crap is not fulfiling that vision nor is it fulfiling the goals of the KDE Community. Now, I'm going to backport that patch to 5.9 this week, and then I'm going = to push a Qt update, and then we'll see if it happens again. Hopefully it doesn't, but if it does, then this bug is being reopened, and no, "upgrade = to a beta" is NOT an acceptable resolution. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.=