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List:       xml-cocoon-dev
Subject:    Re: [CRAZY IDEA] sitemaps in javascript
From:       Sylvain Wallez <sylvain () apache ! org>
Date:       2006-01-31 15:07:24
Message-ID: 43DF7D2C.1080204 () apache ! org
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Jens Maukisch wrote:
> Hi,
>   
>> Honestly, many people already do too much in the sitemap, and are 
>> eventing creative but frightening constructs that would be way cleaner
>> and maintainable if written with a real programming language like 
>> JavaScript.
>>     
>
> And you think its getting better if we open the door even wider
> instead of restricting more an providing cleaner ways?
>   

Yes, because people invented these constructs because they needed it, 
and because the sitemap language wasn't expressive enough to implement 
their needs in a clean way. So adding more restrictions will IMO only 
lead to the invention of even weirder ways to circumvent them...

>> I heard from this "someone" that a JS editor has never been in the scope
>> of Lepido. Especially as one is provided with WebTools, although less
>> featured than Interakt's plugin.
>>     
>
> Yes, but a nice and usable sitemap-editor is certainly in the scope of Lepido, right?
>   

Experience showed that the sitemap language is actually very simple, and 
that people quickly find it more productive to write their sitemap with 
a content-assist editor. In this regard, the WebTools XML editor 
auto-learning feature does quite a good job once a sitemap contains one 
instance of each of the base instructions (match, generate, transform, etc).

Now, to speak clearly, I'm thinking about closing Lepido at Eclipse, 
first because for a number of reasons on which I could expand it didn't 
attract people, and because the future of Cocoon is so unclear to me 
that investing in the development of a tool that may quickly be obsolete 
looks like wasted energy.

Sylvain

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Sylvain Wallez                        Anyware Technologies
http://bluxte.net                     http://www.anyware-tech.com
Apache Software Foundation Member     Research & Technology Director

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