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Subject: Re: [webkit-dev] WebKit position on Web NFC
From: François Beaufort 🇫🇷 <fbeaufort () google ! com>
Date: 2020-01-22 8:03:47
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Gentle ping.
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:56 PM Fran=C3=A7ois Beaufort =F0=9F=87=AB=F0=9F=
=87=B7 <
fbeaufort@google.com> wrote:
> As promised earlier, here's the intent to experiment thread URL we've jus=
t
> sent to blink-dev:
> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/8bsAd-Ps=
dbA
>
> It would be greatly appreciated if you could share specifics about your
> decision.
> Some alternative designs would also help moving this discussion forward.
>
> Thank you,
> Francois.
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:48 PM Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> We oppose this feature and will not implement it.
>>
>> We do not believe a permission prompt is a sufficient mitigation for the
>> serious security and privacy risks raised by this specification. In
>> addition, we think exposing direct hardware access to the web is a bad i=
dea
>> and compromises the device-independence of the web platform.
>>
>> We can provide more details if desired but it may take a few days.
>>
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 11:40 PM, Fran=C3=A7ois Beaufort =F0=9F=87=AB=F0=9F=
=87=B7 <fbeaufort@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello WebKit Dev folks,
>>
>> Following Maciej's invitation to send requests for positions on Web API
>> proposals to webkit-dev, we would like to know WebKit's position on Web
>> NFC: https://w3c.github.io/web-nfc/
>>
>> Web NFC aims to provide sites the ability to read and write to nearby NF=
C
>> devices. The current scope is limited to NDEF, a lightweight binary mess=
age
>> format. Low-level I/O operations with the ISO-DEP protocol and Host-base=
d
>> Card Emulation (HCE) are not supported.
>>
>> FYI, an intent to experiment will be posted soon on blink-dev.
>> I'll update this webkit-dev thread with the URL when done.
>>
>> TAG Review: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/461
>> Chromestatus URL: https://www.chromestatus.com/features/6261030015467520
>> Mozilla standards-positions:
>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/238
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Francois.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> https://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo/webkit-dev
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir="ltr">Gentle ping.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 12:56 PM François Beaufort 🇫🇷 \
<<a href="mailto:fbeaufort@google.com">fbeaufort@google.com</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px \
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">As \
promised earlier, here's the intent to experiment thread URL we've just sent \
to blink-dev: <a href="https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/8bsAd-PsdbA" \
target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/blink-dev/8bsAd-PsdbA</a><br><br><div>It \
would be greatly appreciated if you could share specifics about your \
decision.</div><div>Some alternative designs would also help moving this discussion \
forward.<br><br>Thank you,</div><div>Francois.<br></div></div><br><div \
class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:48 PM \
Maciej Stachowiak <<a href="mailto:mjs@apple.com" \
target="_blank">mjs@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div>We oppose this feature and \
will not implement it.<div><br></div><div>We do not believe a permission prompt is a \
sufficient mitigation for the serious security and privacy risks raised by this \
specification. In addition, we think exposing direct hardware access to the web is a \
bad idea and compromises the device-independence of the web \
platform.</div><div><br></div><div>We can provide more details if desired but it may \
take a few days.<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 5, 2020, at 11:40 \
PM, François Beaufort 🇫🇷 <<a href="mailto:fbeaufort@google.com" \
target="_blank">fbeaufort@google.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div \
dir="ltr"><div>Hello WebKit Dev folks,</div><div><br>Following Maciej's \
invitation to send requests for positions on Web API proposals to webkit-dev, we \
would like to know WebKit's position on Web NFC: <a \
href="https://w3c.github.io/web-nfc/" \
target="_blank">https://w3c.github.io/web-nfc/</a></div><div><br>Web NFC aims to \
provide sites the ability to read and write to nearby NFC devices. The current scope \
is limited to NDEF, a lightweight binary message format. Low-level I/O operations \
with the ISO-DEP protocol and Host-based Card Emulation (HCE) are not \
supported.<br><br></div><div>FYI, an intent to experiment will be posted soon on \
blink-dev.</div><div>I'll update this webkit-dev thread with the URL when \
done.</div><div><br>TAG Review: <a \
href="https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/461" \
target="_blank">https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/461</a><br>Chromestatus \
URL: <a href="https://www.chromestatus.com/features/6261030015467520" \
target="_blank">https://www.chromestatus.com/features/6261030015467520</a><br>Mozilla \
standards-positions: <a \
href="https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/238" \
target="_blank">https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/238</a><br><br>Thank \
you,</div><div>Francois.</div></div> \
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