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Subject:    [Systalk] free domains?
From:       brent harding bharding () admin ! itol ! com
Date:       1999-10-31 16:21:02
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So, how do you find out the locality you need to register under? Or do I
register under myhost.wi.us?
At 10:23 PM 10/30/99 -0700, you wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, William X. Walsh wrote:
>
>> 
>> On 31-Oct-99 George Bonser wrote:
>> > 
>> > WHere do you live? .us domains are free in the United States.
>> > 
>> 
>> Very few are free anymore. Most charge anywhere from $10 to $25/yr
>> now, since IANA changed the rules to permit "reasonable charges."
>
>No, the domain registration is and always has been free. You may need to
>pay the owner of the nameserver an annual fee. The way around this is to
>get as subdomain delegated directly to you. If you are in Dead Fish,
>Idaho, you get 
>
><my-network>.deadfish.id.us and you do your own DNS and your hosts are:
>
><my-host>.<my-network>.deadfish.id.us
>
>Getting kinda long, isn't it. 
>
>
>> 
>> Some diehards still offer them for free, but they are few and far
>> between.
>
>You mean free DNS. Again, the domain is free. Also, the ISI cracked down
>recently on people charging what they felt was a too much money (too much
>money means if you can make a business out of charging for the DNS, you
>are charging too much) and revoked a LOT of local domains back to
>management by ISI.
>
>> 
>> We recently tried to get the local domain changed to different
>> management who committed to making it totally free forever as long
>> as it was under their management, but the existing out of town ISP
>> who it is delegated to is fighting it.  They think it can be some
>> kind of cash cow for them in the future or something.
>
>Report it to the nic.us.  They are really cracking on this kind of
>behavior. 
>
>Here is a really cool way to get the server away from the out-of-towners.
>Go to your City Counsel (or whatever) and have THEM approve the local
>vendor. The local vendor produces a letter from the city govt authorizing
>them to be the official server for the locality and the domain is revoked
>from the out-of-town server.
>
>Read the section on the site about delegation of domains.
>
>See also http://www.nic.us/usdom-overview.html#Cost
>
>$10/year is really not a big deal, particularly if there are only a small
>number of domains served. It might barely pay for the upkeep on the
>systems depending on where they are located.  If I have the nameserver in
>a hardened co-location facillity like Level(3), Qwest, UUNet, InterNAP,
>etc. with ethernet to the internet I would probably need to charge more.
>If it is sitting in my livingroom at the end of a DSL connection, that is
>a different story.
>
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