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List:       suse-kde
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-kde] Plasma 5.8pre -> Factory?
From:       Fabian Vogt <fabian () ritter-vogt ! de>
Date:       2016-09-09 7:25:25
Message-ID: 5361725.kHpGZa3cFt () linux-lm3i ! site
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Am Freitag, 9. September 2016, 08:57:51 CEST schrieb Ludwig Nussel:
> šumski schrieb:
> > On Thursday 08 of September 2016 10:35:47 Ludwig Nussel wrote:
> > > Fabian Vogt schrieb:
> > > > Am Mittwoch, 7. September 2016, 14:44:33 CEST schrieb Ludwig Nussel:
> > > > > With Plasma 5.8 coming closer how about submitting towards Factory
> > > > > already? It would stay in staging for a while but we'd get the new
> > > > > stuff exposed to reviews like factory-auto and legal already. That way
> > > > > we probably have a chance for some pre 5.8 for 42.2 Beta2?
> > > > 
> > > > I agree that Plasma 5.8 should be submitted as early as possible, but
> > > > there are not even tars available yet.
> > > > AFAICS, the earliest date some non-git packages can be made is Sep 15.
> > > > Even those are beta, so it's not planned for TW. (Staging shouldn't be
> > > > a problem though). I guess we could submit the beta packages to 42.2
> > > > while leaving TW at 5.7.4 for those two weeks.
> > > 
> > > Sure, but we could have git based packages until actual tarball releases
> > > are created, right?
> > 
> > Sure, but we need to adjust all the specs not to search for translations, plus
> > bundle-lang will need adjustments too. openQA-ing krypton does not help?
> 
> It is of tremendous help of course. Still, staging and the various
> automated Factory reviews have the potential to bring up other
> issues. My naive assumption was that the Krypton iso is based on
> packages built from git, so I thought it should be straight forward
> to submit :-) Are Krypton packages different from the packages built
> from tarballs?

Yes, in various ways:
- Some packages have a different name (kmail5.spec -> kmail.spec)
- Translations live in a separate repo and thus aren't built
- Sometimes different build options if it can optionally build against something not \
                yet released
- They are only built with Qt 5.7 (from git as well)

It might be a good idea to clean that up and make it at least script-friendly to \
convert the spec files, but it's not a small undertaking. For Plasma, which lives in \
KDE:Unstable:Frameworks, the first point shouldn't apply, but it's still not close \
enough AFAICS.

Also, the branding is currently only half-baked, so I haven't submitted that into the \
repo yet, which means it's identical to upstream. It should be complete (same level \
as 42.1, so no new graphics) on the weekend though. What could be done (I guess) is \
to run a script on all Plasma packages, localrun the service temporarily and submit \
that to 42.2. Would that be ok?

I wonder how the users/testers would react to the unreleased-ness of Plasma in the \
next version...

Cheers,
Fabian

> cu
> Ludwig
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