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List:       suse-kde
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-kde] Plasma 5.8 and openSUSE 42.2
From:       Ludwig Nussel <ludwig.nussel () suse ! de>
Date:       2016-07-29 12:12:19
Message-ID: 33bf4fc4-f017-064f-778f-a71c31398583 () suse ! de
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Martin Schlander schrieb:
> Torsdag den 28. juli 2016 11:42:39 skrev Luca Beltrame:
>> In data giovedì 28 luglio 2016 11:08:59 CEST, Raymond Wooninck ha scritto:
>>> For KDE Applications this situation is even worse as that here in most
>>> cases a newer Frameworks and newer Plasma version is required with
>>
>> Some more points to add to the dicussion:
>> Usually Framework dependencies are per-project (which complicates things),
>> what we have seen historically is that Plasma *may* require a newer
>> Applications version for some functionality (one only case known so far:
>> events shown in the calendar).
>
> So how about a model where:
>
> Leap is released with Plasma 5.8. And only gets upstream Plasma 5.8 bugfix
> releases via the official update channel.
>
> Frameworks can stay at the initial version. Or it can be upgraded to a newer
> version if there are very critical bugs or security issues that are fixed - or
> it can be upgraded at the discretion of the KDE team. Personally I'm willing
> to gamble on the ABI/API stability of Frameworks. But no point in upgrading
> just for the sake of upgrading. I assume Ludwig is OK with this too?
>
> Applications can stay at 16.08.x. Or they can be upgraded if Frameworks is
> upgraded first. But personally I'd prefer applications not to have feature
> upgrades during the Leap release cycle, as I am a big kdepim user who don't
> like surprises ;-)
>
> As I see it, Leap users (i.e. stability and predictability afficionados) and the
> KDE team have a common interest in not messing around with Leap more than
> necessary. But I could be missing something. We have Tumbleweed and OBS repos
> for other use cases.

I totally agree to what you wrote. Leap is for the conservative. The
normal Leap user likely shouldn't care about specific versions of KDE
components.

cu
Ludwig

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