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List:       suse-kde
Subject:    Re: [opensuse-kde] Plasma 5.8 and openSUSE 42.2
From:       Martin Burnicki <martin.burnicki () burnicki ! net>
Date:       2016-07-28 7:18:17
Message-ID: 5799B1B9.1050401 () burnicki ! net
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Ludwig Nussel schrieb:
> Raymond Wooninck schrieb:
>> On Tuesday, 26 July 2016 15:56:16 CEST Antonio Larrosa wrote:
>>>
>>> This mean bringing forward some kde release dates and postponing some
>>> openSUSE pre-releases to make everything fit tightly:
>>>
>>> Following that schedule means that openSUSE 42.2 would be released
>>> including 5.8.1.
>>
>> In my opinion one important point is being overlooked. We have a LTS
>> version
>> for Plasma, but as far as I know we do not have LTS versions for
>> Frameworks
>> nor Applications.
>>
>> So we should first discuss and align the maintenance strategy before even
>> discussing the version of these components. Would it be possible to
>> update the
>> Frameworks, Plasma and Application components in Leap 42.2 through the
>> normal
>> maintenance channels (like we have been doing a couple of times for Leap
>> 42.1), or is the maintenance for 42.2 now restricted to pure bugfixes and
>> versions of packages should be kept at the same level as the release ??
> 
> Good point. Leap's message is to prefer working components over the
> latest and greatest and I'd wish that it's default desktop would
> somehow reflect that spirit too. As such switching to a Plasma LTS
> release fits the story well. However, planning to have a kind of buggy
> default desktop and to release an online update for it right when we
> release 42.2 doesn't. Therefore I'd like to have e.g 5.8.1 on GM if that
> has the most obvious bugs fixed already. I'd probably rather move some
> milestone than shipping .0.
> The update channel technically does not forbid version updates. Still
> we have to keep the use case of Leap in mind. Therefore I'd rather
> not repeat such KDE version updates as we had in 42.1. Esp intrusive
> ones that add new packages, obsolete others and cause build failures
> etc. So if Plasma, Framework or Applications are developed and
> released independently, maybe upstream needs to sit together and
> come up with Framework and Applications releases that fit the Plasma
> LTS one. All three components together form KDE and the impression
> people get from it after all. Since we promote KDE as default
> desktop the impression does rub off on Leap. So it better be a good
> one.

+1 +1 +1

Martin

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